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21 November 2008

Balasan: [forum-pajak] NPWP

coba bantu ya....
1. Sampeyan tinggal kumpulkan foto copy semua karyawan yang akan di NPWP kan setelah itu sampeyan ajukan ke AR sampeyan atau ke KPP sampeyan terdaftar, kenapa foto copy KTP karena itu dasar untuk isi domisili si karyawan dan itu berlaku Nasional.

2. Untuk PPH Psl 21 prinsipnya semua penghasilan yang di terima karyawan sampeyan harus dihitung ( entah itu natura, premi asuransi, uang makan, uang dinas, tunjangan dll ) pokoknya yang menambah penghasilan si karyawan, jadi Gaji Pokok Plus Plus Plus......

demikian..... rekan lain silahkan menambahkan, kalau kurang di maaf ya..... ( sama masih belajar juga....)

bigindo <bigindo@centrin.net.id> wrote:
Mohon bantuan semuanya,

saya ada beberapa pertanyaan :
1. Bagaimana cara memperoleh NPWP secara collectif apakah ada form yang harus saya isi.
2. Untuk menghitung PPH 21 apakah berdasarkan Gaji Pokok saja atau ikut tunjangan.

Trimakasih atas bantuan semuanya.

Salam,
Lenti

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Re: [forum-pajak] Form PPN 1108

Menyimak ketentuan PER-29/PJ/2008 tgl. 23 Juni 2008 pasal 3 bahwa Bentuk, Isi dan Ukuran induk SPT dan Lampiran SPT dalam SPT Masa PPN Formulir 1108 tidak boleh dirubah.
 
Selanjutnya, Pasal 9 mangatakan bahwa formulir SPT Masa PPN 1108 diperoleh di KPP atau di download dari situs Ditjen Pajak www.pajak.go.id. yang ditegaskan kembali dalam Lampiran II PER-29 bahwa file yg didownload adalah file PDF.
 
Selanjutnya, menyimak cara kerja di KPP dalam rangka merekam SPT Masa PPN formulir 1108 yg disampaikan WP tidak melalui proses data entry, melainkan dgn proses SCAN langsung dari setiap lembar SPT masa PPN formulir 1108.
 
Dari beberapa analisa dan pengamatan di atas, sehingga dapat disimpulkan bahwa diperlukan KECERMATAN & KETELITIAN extra dalam mengisi SPT Masa PPN formulir 1108. Jika tetap ingin mencoba dengan file excel buatan sendiri, dapat saja dicoba dengan memperhatikan hal-hal detail yang diatur dalam Lampiran II PER-29, antara lain sbb :
- Dicetak dengan kertas folio/F4
- Pengaturan kertas pada printer 8,5 x 13 inch
- Tidak menggunakan printer dotmatrik.
- Cara Penulisan Masa Pajak adalah 10 s.d. 10 - 2008
- Format penulisan tanggal dd-mm-yyy : 20-09-2008
- Penulisan rupiah, tidak boleh menggunakan  koma.
- Bilamana nihil tidak boleh pakai tanda (-) harus dengan angka nol.
 
Oke, selamat mencoba kembali dan bacalah terlebih dahulu dengan teliti PER-29 berikut penjelasan2 dalam lampirannya. Sehingga mungkin saja melaporkan SPT Masa PPN 1108 dengan file EXCEL buatan sendiri tidak ditolak oleh KPP.
 
Petugas di KPP bekerja berdasarkan apa yang tertulis dalam peraturan, dan bilamana kebetulan petugas di KPP masih junior atau kurang mendalami dan memahami karakteristik dan tujuan dari suatu peraturan yang dikeluarkan, maka sebagai contoh yang terjadi adalah penolakan SPT Masa PPN 1108 yang dibuat dengan file EXCEL, namun demikian bilamana petugas di KPP menguasahi dan memahami seluruh sistim IT di KPP ditambah lagi mengerti dan memahami karakteristik dan tujuan dari suatu peraturan, maka seharusnya SPT Masa PPN 1108 yang dibuat dengan file EXCEL tidak ditolak sepanjang telah memenuhi ketentutan2 yang diatur dalam PER-29 berikut lampirannya.
 
Bagi WP, jangan putus asa, dicoba lagi. Ada beberapa kawan telah berhasil melaporkan SPT Masa PPN 1108 dengan file EXCEL.
 
Salam,
INDRA
 


--- On Fri, 11/21/08, revano fajar <ano_ui@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: revano fajar <ano_ui@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [forum-pajak] Form PPN 1108
To: forum-pajak@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, November 21, 2008, 10:23 AM


Pak Thio,
 
Dalam pasal 9 Per-29/PJ/2008 disebutkan
 
" Formulir SPT dalam bentuk kertas (hard copy) diperoleh di KPP atau di download dari situs Direktorat Jenderal Pajak, dengan alamat http://www.pajak. go.id"
 
jadi seharusnya apabila teman bapak mengisi form 1108 hasil dari download di www.pajak.go. id (dan sesuai dengan formatnya) sudah seharusnya KPP menerima form tersebut karena tidak ada satu syarat pun menyebutkan form 1108 haruslah dari KPP.
 
salam,
REV

--- On Thu, 11/20/08, Thio Sunaryo <ts051073@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Thio Sunaryo <ts051073@yahoo. com>
Subject: [forum-pajak] Form PPN 1108
To: forum-pajak@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Thursday, November 20, 2008, 4:55 AM

Selamat sore semua,

Sekedar mau tanya, tadi siang saya lapor PPN dengan menggunakan form 1108 yang dicetak sendiri/ print dari komputer (file dari temen) ditolak sama petugas, katanya harus menggunakan form yang dari KPP, alasannya belum ada petunjuk tentang form yang cetak sendiri tersebut bisa diterima atau tidak.

Kenapa seperti itu ya ? ada penjelasan yg lebih dari rekan-rekan sekalian

terima kasih

salam

thio

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Re: [taxchat] Great Backup System

Yes a physical daily on-site back-up like Windows Home Server can get stolen or destroyed, so of course one might have other back-up copies.  Me personally?  I have internal hard drives across the network that each maintain copies of all data files, plus external hard drives, and CD-R burned discs, they are held in different locations and are archived for years going back "forever."
 
I haven't tried it yet, but the HP MediaSmart Server has USB ports to allow a manual off-loading to an external hard drive.
 
Though - I seriously doubt someone would steal computers non-a-days, or worse a boring little black box such as the HP MediaSmart Server!  It has no monitor, it's just a box that hums and has a few LED lights.    What's the street value of a hot desktop PC, one that isn't some Extreme Gaming toy?   Less than $20 I'd imagine.   Not worth the trouble for some thief to carry out of the building.
I see PC's piled up at the town recycling center  - all you want for free.  No one's going to buy a used one off the street.
 
Laptops, yes those would get stolen, they are small, light and self-contained and I'd guess they probably go for $75 on the street.
 

Colin Cody, CPA

 
----- Original Message -----
From: MKR
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 5:20 PM
Subject: Re: [taxchat] Great Backup System

Do you have a off-site backup arrangement? I have seen all kinds of catastrophies including system getting stolen.
 
mkr

 
On 11/21/08, Colin Cody <taxspecialst@earthlink.net> wrote:

A year ago I picked up Windows Home Server (via a HP MediaSmart Server)
Once configured it works all by itself.  When there's a problem, a bright colored icon lights up on the system tray of my computer monitor. 
 
From time to time I have restored a file, choosing it from any easily accessible number of back up dates available to choose from.  Works great.
The Server itself has some MS method of doing a RAID-like incremental file storage.  So it needs to extract the data to get the file copied to where ever I want to send it.   There's bays for 4 drives, and they claim if one or two drives crash, just replace them and the system will rebuild itself.
 
 
I had my C:\ drive die last month.  (I was expecting it to die and so at night I'd shut all programs down so the 3:00AM Smart Server back-up would have everything nice and clean and there'd be no last minute changes for e-mail arrivals, etc..    As fate would have it, right after the back-up routine one night, as I came in the office in the morning, my monitor indicated the hard disc had died.
 
As promised, Windows Home Server re-created the a bootable C:\ drive onto a brand new hard disc (it took 20 hours to rebuild the 150G of data)
 
It is a great backup system!  I highly recommend it.  And if MS ever gets the "Home Server shadow copy" to work, it will be even better than great!
 

Colin Cody, CPA

 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 7:18 PM
Subject: RE: [taxchat] Great Backup System

 

What I was wondering was whether the software writes the data in a proprietary fashion. If you  can open a file in your backup from Windows, I guess that would not be the case.


From: taxchat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:taxchat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Stevens, Equi-Tax
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 5:18 PM
To: taxchat@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [taxchat] Great Backup System

 

I don't know, but the system comes as a package, with the dock, the cartridge(s) and the software.  Why wouldn't you want to use the software?  I believe it's optional as to whether you want to install the software.

John Stevens, EA
Stevens Tax & Accounting, Inc., dba Equi-Tax
1870 - 50th St. E., Suite 8
Inver Grove Heights, MN 55077
651-773-5000
FAX 651-457-4529
equitax@unique-software.com
www.equitax.net



From: taxchat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:taxchat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mel Wolfson
Sent: 11/20/2008 2:36 PM
To: taxchat@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [taxchat] Great Backup System

One last question, can you read the data on the backup without using the Quantum software or is it in a proprietary format?


From: taxchat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:taxchat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Stevens, Equi-Tax
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 3:00 PM
To: taxchat@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [taxchat] Great Backup System

No, Mel, Gear Up is not recommending a system for which they no longer make the docks.  I was stating a hypothetical, a what if scenario, ie. what if Quantum discontinued making the docks, and a dock failed, and I only had a data-filled cartridge with no serviceable dock into which to insert it?

Regarding the fact that the external dock is hooked up to a USB port, it only takes 13 minutes to do a backup of my system after the initial backup, because it leaves all prior data intact, and only adds changed or new data.  That was the main reason I found this GoVault system so attractive.  I can walk out the door at the end of the day with a complete backup of my server, rather than wait until the next morning to exchange the external hard drive that got backed up during the night.  The boot time isn't an issue at all.

John Stevens, EA
Stevens Tax & Accounting, Inc., dba Equi-Tax
1870 - 50th St. E., Suite 8
Inver Grove Heights, MN 55077
651-773-5000
FAX 651-457-4529
equitax@unique-software.com
www.equitax.net

 


From: taxchat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:taxchat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mel Wolfson
Sent: 11/20/2008 12:31 PM
To: taxchat@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [taxchat] Great Backup System

GearUp is recommending a system for which they no longer make the docks? Perhaps there is a software only version that would work with external drives. My one gripe with the usb drives is that they are much slower and if you have more than one installed on a pc, it takes much longer to boot. (on a newer pc with Vista that may not be an issue).


From: taxchat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:taxchat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Stevens, Equi-Tax
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 1:11 PM
To: taxchat@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [taxchat] Great Backup System

Thanks for the input, Mel.  I appreciate it.  I still have my external hard drives that I used to use.  Maybe I'll hook them back up for redundancy.  Another idea may be to purchase an additional dock in the event that the dock fails in 5 years or so, and Quantum has discontinued making the GoVault docks.  I know that some people used to always purchase extra tape drives for the same reason.  I already have an extra cartridge.

I don't think you're paranoid – the more backup the better.

My own tech guy has similar reservations about online backup.  He's been in the business for 30-40 years, was a programmer/systems analyst at Unisys after graduating in math in '72, and eventually set up his own shop.  He's been building my computers for about 10 years, and has helped me through hard drive crashes, in fact, one server crashed about February 10th a few years ago, and I was up and running very quickly.  I was using a tape backup at the time.  He's the one that recommended the mirrored hard drive and external hard drive backup.  Actually, he put my operating system on one hard drive (the C drive, not a virtual drive, but an actual hard drive), and installed a mirrored D drive also. 

John Stevens, EA
Stevens Tax & Accounting, Inc., dba Equi-Tax
1870 - 50th St. E., Suite 8
Inver Grove Heights, MN 55077
651-773-5000
FAX 651-457-4529
equitax@unique-software.com
www.equitax.net





From: taxchat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:taxchat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mel Wolfson
Sent: 11/20/2008 11:55 AM
To: taxchat@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [taxchat] Great Backup System

I looked up GoVault. It seems to be a removable hard disk cartridge. The two places where there might be a concern, not saying how great a concern that might be because I don't know are, that the cartridge could fail or that the docking system goes on you. Hard disks do fail. Should that happen while all is working properly, you could insert a new cartridge and make a clean backup of everything. If the dock goes, you might lose the data along with the dock.

This is all speculation of course. I don't trust any one backup system. Perhaps I'm paranoid. My brother-in-law lost his entire office in a flood. Since the data was backed up, he was able to restore. (This happened twice during a single tax season.) If he had been relying entirely on GoVault, I can't say whether his situation would have been better or worse. Do you know whether they guarantee that if you have to replace the dock (or whatever they call the system into which the cartridges are inserted), whether the new dock is guaranteed to read the disks created by the old one? As you know, if a hard disk controller goes, the replacement may not be able to read the data from the drive created by the old one.

In the days when people backed up to tape, they maintained several backups. Does GoVault recommend the same with their product.

I'm asklng this not to knock GoVault but because I would seriously consider this as an alternative to what I'm using know which is a combination of USB drives and internet backup. I'd probably keep the internet backup regardless of what the two folks from GearUp say.


From: taxchat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:taxchat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Stevens, Equi-Tax
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 12:36 PM
To: taxchat@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [taxchat] Great Backup System

Mel,

  1. I don't know technically what type of storage it is, but I asked the rep at Quantum whether I could reproduce all applications and data from the cartridge onto a new hard drive, and he said yes.  They use a term called, data deduplication.  Here's from the manual:

"The GoVault data protection software is an archiving/capacity-optimization application designed for use with removable GoVault cartridges.  To better optimize the long-term storage of digital content, the GoVault data protection software uses innovative technology to virtually eliminate redundant information stored for a given set of data.

The GoVault data protection software uses a heuristic approach to optimally segment data, and Common Content Factoring™ to uniquely identify each segment and store it only once.  For a given version of a set of data, new segments are stored along with metadata used to reconstruct this version from these new segments and possibly other segments stored at earlier points in time.

By factoring out common data, the effective capacity of a GoVault cartridge is significantly increased without loss of functionality and with increased performance of the archiving system.  In short, the GoVault data protection software makes long-term disk-based archiving fast, easy, and affordable."

And from another part of the manual:

"Using Windows System Recovery

The GoVault data protection software is a data protection application, intended to backup and recover your important data files.  It is not intended and will not function as a system recovery tool.

Always use the Windows System Recovery utility to restore your computer operating system and installed applications.

Also, after performing an Everything type restore operation, use Windows System Recovery if you encounter any irregularities with you operating system or applications."

From that I would interpret that if you are trying to restore your operating system from the cartridge, you may also need to restore it from your CD if it doesn't seem right.

  1. I agree that a multipronged approach is advisable.  They do advise doing test restores.  They say to replace cartridges after 10 years.

The thing that influenced me more than anything else to try the system is the fact that Rick Oelerich uses it.  He's been in the business for about 35 years, and is very tech savvy.

John Stevens, EA
Stevens Tax & Accounting, Inc., dba Equi-Tax
1870 - 50th St. E., Suite 8
Inver Grove Heights, MN 55077
651-773-5000
FAX 651-457-4529
equitax@unique-software.com
www.equitax.net






From: taxchat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:taxchat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mel Wolfson
Sent: 11/20/2008 10:45 AM
To: taxchat@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [taxchat] Great Backup System

What type of storage does the cartridge use?

My feeling is that you need a multipronged approach. Any one system you're using could be failing and you might not know that this is happening. Did they suggest doing a test restore on a regular interval and replacing the cartridges on a scheduled basis? Both might be prudent if that's the only thing you use.

As for on line backup, I think the security issues are not that great if you upload encrypted data to which only you have the key.


From: taxchat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:taxchat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Stevens, Equi-Tax
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 11:25 AM
To: taxchat@yahoogroups.com; 'TaxTalk Listserv Members'
Subject: [taxchat] Great Backup System

Hello all,

I recently attended the Gear Up Technology seminar.  One of the instructors, Rick Oelerich, EA, recommended a system from Quantum called GoVault.  He said you can back up your entire hard drive, applications and data.  He said the first backup takes awhile, but after that it only takes a few minutes because it only adds new files or changed files.  I decided to try it.  The first backup took a full 24 hours to get 42 GB.  Now it only takes 13 minutes.  I do it at the end of the day and take the backup cartridge home.  If the computer's hard drive would fail, I could be up and running very quickly with the backup cartridge, which could be copied to a new hard drive.  There are 2 models to the system, an internal dock, or an external dock that plugs into a USB port, and a variety of cartridge sizes, ranging from 40 GB up to 320 GB.  I got 2 160 GB cartridges.  I also use a mirrored hard drive to give me up-to-the minute backup, but the problem with that is that if the hard drive begins to fail, the mirrored drive will be recording identically.

I was backing up to an external hard drive connected to a USB port.  It would back up during the night and take about 2 hours.  I would then exchange it with a second drive in the morning, and repeat the process.  I like the new system better because I get an immediate backup that I can take off site right away.

Both instructors at the seminar, Carl Heinz, CPA, and Rick Oelerich, EA, did not like backing up online because of security issues.

John Stevens, EA
Stevens Tax & Accounting, Inc., dba Equi-Tax
1870 - 50th St. E., Suite 8
Inver Grove Heights, MN 55077
651-773-5000
FAX 651-457-4529
equitax@unique-software.com
www.equitax.net







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[forum-pajak] Biro Perasuransian kaji permintaan data nasabah dari Ditjen Pajak

Sabtu, 22/11/2008 01:35 WIB


Biro Perasuransian kaji permintaan data nasabah dari Ditjen Pajak


JAKARTA: Biro Perasuransian Bapepam-LK meminta Dirjen Pajak menyikapi
secara bijak kewajiban memberikan data nasabah sebagai wajib pajak (WP)
karena menyangkut kenyamanan nasabah asuransi.

"Namun, mestinya Ditjen Pajak bisa menyikapi secara bijak karena ini
bisa menyangkut kenyamanan dari nasabah asuransi untuk melakukan atau
membeli produk asuransi," kata Kepala Biro Perasuransian Isa
Rachmatarwata di Jakarta, kemarin.

Dia mengatakan Biro Perasuransian akan mempelajari dan mendalami hal itu
untuk dibicarakan lebih lanjut dalam pertemuan dengan Dirjen Pajak. Isa
juga meminta asosiasi asuransi untuk tidak khawatir secara berlebihan
bahwa itu akan menimbulkan ketakutan berasuransi.

"Kalau asuransi sebagai kebutuhan baik sebagai proteksi maupun sarana
investasi mestinya tidak ada kekhawatiran yang berlebihan juga,"
katanya.

Pengurus Asosiasi Asuransi Jiwa Indonesia (AAJI) Bidang Compliance and
Best Practices Adi Purnomo mengatakan pihaknya tidak berniat
berseberangan dengan aturan itu. Namun, dia berharap pemerintah mengerti
posisi perusahaan asuransi yang harus menjaga privasi nasabah.

Dia mengatakan saat ini pemerintah berwacana menerapkan asuransi wajib.
Adi mengharapkan wacana itu tidak kontraproduktif seperti kewajiban
memberikan data nasabah karena itu bisa menimbulkan rasa tidak nyaman.

Meski demikian, dia menegaskan jika perusahaan asuransi nantinya
diwajibkan mencatumkan nomor pokok wajib pajak (NPWP), mereka akan
mendukung.

"Kalau nanti suatu saat pemerintah mengharuskan setiap pengisian
aplikasi asuransi atau mengikuti tender harus mencantumkan NPWP maka
akan kami dukung," katanya.

Kewajiban membantu pengumpulan data wajib pajak itu tercantum dalam UU
No. 28/2007 tentang Ketentuan Umum dan Tata Cara Perpajakan.

Konsultan Pajak dari APS Consulting Hendra Wijana berpendapat memang
berdasarkan UU KUP Ditjen Pajak mempunyai kewenangan meminta data WP
dari pihak lain seperti dari bank, asuransi, notaris, ataupun kantor
administrasi.

"Namun itu [permintaan data] harus dilakukan dalam rangka pemeriksaan.
Jadi tidak bisa kalau minta data kalau untuk benchmarking," katanya
kepada Bisnis.

WP merupakan orang pribadi atau badan, meliputi pembayar pajak, pemotong
pajak, dan pemungut pajak, yang mempunyai hak dan kewajiban perpajakan
sesuai dengan ketentuan peraturan perundang-undangan perpajakan.

Dalam pasal 35A disebutkan setiap instansi pemerintah, lembaga,
asosiasi, dan pihak lain wajib memberikan data dan informasi yang
berkaitan dengan perpajakan kepada Direktorat Jenderal Pajak dengan
memerhatikan ketentuan dalam Pasal 35 ayat 2 tersebut. (15)


Oleh Hanna Prabandari

Bisnis Indonesia

bisnis.com

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Re: [forum-pajak] Pajak Luar Negeri

Salam...
Coba aja dech kirim ke form konsultasi di www.pajakonline.com (Konsultasinya
Gratiss lho..)

Kemarin saya kirim pertanyaan yang agak komplek dijawab dengan cepat dan
komprehensif lagi...disertai dasar hukum

Wass...

2008/11/21 Limrot <limrot@amtek.com.sg>

> Selamat pagi para anggota forum.
>
> Mohon info untuk permasalahan dibawah ini :
>
> PT. A adalah sebuah perusahaan yg bergerak dibidang kontraktor dan sudah
> PKP, menerima Surat Perintah Kerja dari Perusahaan B (LN) untuk
> melaksanakan renovasi sebuah hotel di LN. PT. A bermaksud akan membawa
> tenaga kerja local untuk melaksanakan renovasi dimaksud.
>
> Pertanyaan :
>
> 1. Pajak apa sajakah yg akan timbul atas kasus diatas.
> 2. Apabila saatnya nanti PT. A menerima termin dari Perusahaan B, apakah
> akan ada potongan pajaknya ( jika ada, pajak apa dan berapa banyak ).
>
> Terima kasih.
>
> limrot
>
>

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Bls: [forum-pajak] Juklak PP 51 - PPh Jasa Konstruksi

Yang ingin saya tanyakan apabila kita sebagai pengguna jasa Kontruksi yang telah terlanjur kita potong PPH 23 apakah harus di pindah bukukan semua dari Januari 2008??Mungkin rekan2 bisa ngasi saran kepada saya yang masih awam tentang pajak..

Salam. 


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Kepada: forum-pajak@yahoogroups.com
Terkirim: Jumat, 21 November, 2008 10:28:11
Topik: [forum-pajak] Juklak PP 51 - PPh Jasa Konstruksi


FYI;
Telah terbit PMK-187/PMK. 03/2008 tanggal 20 November 2008 Tentang
Tata Cara Pemotongan, Penyetoran, Pelaporan, Dan Penatausahaan Pajak
Penghasilan Atas Penghasilan Dari Usaha Jasa Konstruksi

http://triyani. wordpress. com/2008/ 11/21/juklak- pp-51-pph- jasa-konstruksi/

Salam,
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Re: [forum-pajak] Re:tax treaty

Salam.....

1. Untuk Tax Treaty Indonesia - Malaysia dapat anda lihat di
www.pajakonline.com
Link langsung http://www.pajakonline.com/engine/treaty/view.php?id=27
2. Untuk Tax Treaty Indonesa - Hongkong setahu saya belum ada...
Hongkong termasuk negara-negara yang dikategorikan Tax Haven Countries (
Lampiran KMK Nomor
<goog_1227316038821>650/KMK.04/1994<http://www.pajakonline.com/engine/peraturan/view.php?id=076a0c97d09cf1a0ec3e19c7f2529f2b>*)
*). Konsep dan Aplikasi Cross Border Tansfer Pricing hal 66 - Danny
Darussalam Tax Center

Wassalam, semoga membantu

2008/11/21 Tono Belajarpajak <tonopajak@yahoo.com>

> saya sudah mencari di www.pajak.go.id bagian peraturan dan taxtrety,
> tidak menjumpai perjanjian indonesia hongkong, coba bapak tanya yang lain,
> atau saya kurang teliti membacanya..
> ths..
> hidup belajar pajak :)
>
>
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>
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Re: [forum-pajak] NPWP

mba lenti
1. cara mperoleh NPWP kolektif lihat PER 16 PJ 2007
tentang pemberian NPWP OP melalui pemberi kerja
caranya dgn membuat daftar normatif dan atau mengisi e-NPWP
daftar nomatif tsb di bagi tiga kelompok
kelompok I : pengurus,komisaris,pemegang saham/pemilik
dan pegawai penghasilanya diatas PTKP blm punya NPWP
kelompok II: pengurus,komisaris,pemegang saham/pemilik
dan pegawai penghasilanya diatas PTKP sdh punya NPWP
kelompok III: pegawai dibawah PTKP
lampirkan pula foto copy KTP utk setiap kelompok
& foto copy NPWP yg sdh punya (kelompok II)
2.tunjangan merupakan pengasilan = objek pajak
sehingga ikut diperhitungkan dlm pph 21
pasal 21 (1a)UU No.17 thn 2000

mohon koreksi & tanggapan lain dipersilahkan
salam
candra


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Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 2:17:34 PM
Subject: [forum-pajak] NPWP


Mohon bantuan semuanya,

saya ada beberapa pertanyaan :
1. Bagaimana cara memperoleh NPWP secara collectif apakah ada form yang harus saya isi.
2. Untuk menghitung PPH 21 apakah berdasarkan Gaji Pokok saja atau ikut tunjangan.

Trimakasih atas bantuan semuanya.

Salam,
Lenti

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Re: [forum-pajak] Tanya NPWP Karyawan

Salam....
Kalo menurut pendapat saya :

1. Semua karyawan memang diwajibkan memiliki NPWP, tapi sepanjang
penghasilannya setahun tidak lebih dari PTKP memang boleh2 aja tidak
memiliki NPWP. Tapi kewajiban pajak Subjektifnya sebenarnya sejak Saat dia
dilahirkan, berniat tinggal di Indonesia atau sejak hari pertama berada di
Indonesia. Saya baca artikelnya di
http://www.pajakonline.com/engine/learning/view.php?id=236
Lengkap juga artikel tentang belajar pajaknya...

Kembali ke masalah anda....
Dan memang nantinya juga NIHIL, tapi apa salahnya punya NPWP (sebagai
tanda sebagai WN yang baik). Toh sekarang pelaporan SPT Tahunannya juga
simple banget...(1770SS). Tinggal ngisi penghasilan, hutang, dan daftar
harta.

Terangkan aja kepada mereka bahwa, bahwa punya NPWP sbg ikut membangun
bangsa (Hari gini nggak punya NPWP...Apa Kata Dunia). Dan yang paling
penting...sebenarnya gaji yang mereka terima sudah bersih dipotong
pajak(kalo memang > PTKP). Klo nggak punya NPWP bisa kena pajak 20% lebih
tinggi, jadi gaji yg terima lebih kecil (walaupun dgn sistem grossup gaji yg
diterima jadi sama aja tapi perusahaan yg biaya tunjangan pajaknya
membengkak).

2. Dan untuk pengenaan Tarif 20% lebih tinggi untuk tahun pajak 2009, itu
kan bagi yang Penghasilannya diatas PTKP. Nah gimana mau dikenain Tarif wong
Ph Kena Pajaknya aja 0 (alias Nihil)

3. Jadi kesimpulan menurut saya sih, dibikinin aja NPWPnya (itung2
berperan memajukan Pajak Indonesia) ...soal pelaporan dan Nihilnya kan
simple gtu.

Mungkin itu pendapat saya...

Wass..Terimakasih

2008/11/21 Nur Cholis <nur_azka@yahoo.com>

>
> Menurut saya tarif 20% lebih tinggi sih ga ngaruh, karena penghasilan kena
> pajak didapet dari pengurangan PTKP terlebih dahulu.
>
> --- On Thu, 11/20/08, accty <accty@bussan.co.id <accty%40bussan.co.id>>
> wrote:
>
> > From: accty <accty@bussan.co.id <accty%40bussan.co.id>>
> > Subject: RE: [forum-pajak] Tanya NPWP Karyawan
>
> > To: forum-pajak@yahoogroups.com <forum-pajak%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Date: Thursday, November 20, 2008, 11:37 AM
>
> > Bu Deasy,
> >
> >
> >
> > Setahu saya, jika penghasilannya tidak melebihi PTKP-nya,
> > maka karyawan
> > tsb tidak harus bikin NPWP.
> >
> > Tapi nanti dengan peraturan baru, tariff pajaknya dihitung
> > 20% lebih
> > besar dari yang punya NPWP. Kalo sudah ditambah 20% aja
> > masih nihil,
> > menurut saya, gak perlu bikin NPWP bu. CMIIW
> >
> >
> >
> > Tx,
> >
> > Ronald
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: forum-pajak@yahoogroups.com <forum-pajak%40yahoogroups.com>
> > [mailto:forum-pajak@yahoogroups.com <forum-pajak%40yahoogroups.com>]
> > On Behalf Of gilang permana
> > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 9:23 AM
> > To: forum-pajak@yahoogroups.com <forum-pajak%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: Bls: [forum-pajak] Tanya NPWP Karyawan
> >
> >
> >
> > melaporkan itu adalah hak dan kewajiban setiap orang yang
> > mempunyai
> > penghasilan, jadi walaupun nihil ya dilaporkan nihil. untuk
> > pembuatan
> > npwp itu diwajibkan buat semua orang yang telah memiliki
> > penghasilan
> > tidak terkecuali supir.
> > jika salah mohon dikoreksi
> >
> > Best Regards
> >
> > Gumilang Permana
> >
> > --- Pada Rab, 19/11/08, Deasy Christine
> > <deasy_rg@yahoo.com <deasy_rg%40yahoo.com>
> > <mailto:deasy_rg%40yahoo.com <deasy_rg%2540yahoo.com>> > menulis:
> > Dari: Deasy Christine <deasy_rg@yahoo.com <deasy_rg%40yahoo.com>
> > <mailto:deasy_rg%40yahoo.com <deasy_rg%2540yahoo.com>>
> > >
> > Topik: [forum-pajak] Tanya NPWP Karyawan
> > Kepada: "forum pajak"
> > <forum-pajak@yahoogroups.com <forum-pajak%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:forum-pajak%40yahoogroups.com <forum-pajak%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> >
> > Tanggal: Rabu, 19 November, 2008, 10:32 AM
> >
> > Temans, peraturan baru khan mewajibkan semua karyawan hrs
> > punya NPWP,
> > bagai mana dengan sopir, security dan office boy, agak
> > susah menerangkan
> > masalah NPWP kepada mereka dan kalau dihitung pph nya jg
> > nihil, apakah
> > bemasalah dengan pelaporan spt perusahaan ?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Deasy
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________________
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> > luas.
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> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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[forum-pajak] Re: Form PPN 1108

Yup, form 1108 memang menyusahkan WP.
Aku sendiri mengalami penolakan di beberapa KPP karena cetakan yg aku
download dari situs pajak tidak bisa terbaca mesin scanning.

Menurut peraturan memang tidak selalu harus form dari kantor pajak,
tapi kalo besar huruf, ukuran margin kiri & kanan,- bentuk kolom dan
kotak yg wajib sama persis, artinya hampir mustahil jika kita mencetak
sendiri bisa sama sperti itu, bahkan foto copy pun kemaren masih di
tolak juga. Kecuali kita juga menscanning dan mencetaknya di
percetakan dengan bentuk dan ukuran yg persis sama seperti lembar dari
KPP.

Seperti yg dikatakan Pak Haryanto, memang sekarang ini yg paling mudah
melaporkan pajak lewat internet/e-filling/e-spt. Tapi bukankah dalam
pelaporan pajak WP memiliki 2 Opsi?
Opsi 1. Lapor pajak dgn Form 1107 (e-spt/e-filling) jika FPS >30
Opsi 2. Lapor dgn form 1108 manual jika FPS <30 lembar.
Tapi karena opsi ke-2 'dipersulit' ini sama artinya WP hanya punya
satu opsi saja (e-spt)- untuk apa guna 2 opsi ????

Seharusnya Ditjen Pajak mencari cara yg paling memudahkan WP dalam
melaporkan pajaknya, bukan justru mempersulitnya.
Masalah Form yg tdk bisa terbaca scanning adalah masalah internal
Ditjen pajak seharusnya mereka mencari solusinya, bukan justru
merepotkan WP.

Salam hangat,
Deny Imanuel Sumakul


//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
- In forum-pajak@yahoogroups.com, "awaluddin_lim" <awal_lim@...> wrote:
>
> Saya juga mengalaminya, saya tanya ARnya kenapa? ternyata formnya
hurufnya besarnya tidak sama dengan form dari KPP (saya dapat versi
excel), solusinya download saja dari www.pajak.go.id kemudian isi form
yang .pdf dimasukkan lagi ke KPP beres dah urusan.
>
> pendapat lain silahkan
>
> Awal
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Thio Sunaryo
> To: forum-pajak@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 4:55 PM
> Subject: [forum-pajak] Form PPN 1108
>
>
> Selamat sore semua,
>
> Sekedar mau tanya, tadi siang saya lapor PPN dengan menggunakan
form 1108 yang dicetak sendiri/ print dari komputer (file dari temen)
ditolak sama petugas, katanya harus menggunakan form yang dari KPP,
alasannya belum ada petunjuk tentang form yang cetak sendiri tersebut
bisa diterima atau tidak.
>
> Kenapa seperti itu ya ? ada penjelasan yg lebih dari rekan-rekan
sekalian
>
> terima kasih
>
> salam
>
> thio
>
> __________________________________________________________
>
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Re: [forum-pajak] SPT O.P 1770 dibawah tahun 2007 in XLS

Salam...
Silakan donlot aja di www.pajakonline.com , form2 SPTnya lengkap kok.

Download aja langsung http://www.pajakonline.com/engine/download/index.php#2


Ini linknya :

1. *Form SPT Tahunan Orang Pribadi 1770
*http://www.pajakonline.com/engine/download/download.php?id=64&t=zip
2. *Form SPT Tahunan Orang Pribadi Karyawan 1770 S
*http://www.pajakonline.com/engine/download/download.php?id=65&t=zip
3. *Buku Petunjuk Pengisian SPT Tahunan PPh Orang Pribadi 1770
*http://www.pajakonline.com/engine/download/download.php?id=68&t=zip
4. *Buku Petunjuk Pengisian SPT Tahunan PPh Orang Pribadi Karyawan 1770S
*http://www.pajakonline.com/engine/download/download.php?id=69&t=zip


Wassalam, terimakasih

2008/11/21 melky <gintingmanik@gmail.com>

> Dear all,
>
> temans ada yg punya SPT OP 1770 dibawah tahun 2007 ndak, mau dong biasa
> buat
> sunset, tolong ya thanks in advance.
>
> Regards,
> Melky
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>

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[forum-pajak] Sunset Policy

Mohon pencerahannya semua,

Orang Tua saya membeli sebuah rumah seharga Rp 32.000.000 (tahun 2000) tapi atas nama saya.
Sehubungan dengan sunset policy sekarang bagaimana saya melaporkannya sementara rumah tersebut bukan dari penghasilan saya.

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Re: [forum-pajak] NPWP

Salam....
Setahu saya nich...

1. Untuk pendaftaran kolektif hubungi aja KPP tempat perusahaan
Terdaftar, ntar staf mereka akan menghubungi anda dan akan didatangi
langsung.
2. Untuk menghitung PPh 21 berdasarkan Gaji Pokok + Bonus + Tunjangan2.
Petunjuk Penghitungan lengkapnya silakan lihat di
KEP-545/PJ./2000<http://www.pajakonline.com/engine/peraturan/view.php?id=a42a596fc71e17828440030074d15e74>jo
PER-15/PJ./20006<http://www.pajakonline.com/engine/peraturan/view.php?id=f3e0eb8f4ae5f3afd35b5e4b6e5a2d78>

Nah untuk artikel lengkap PPh Ps 21 juga bisa dibaca
disini<http://www.pajakonline.com/engine/learning/index_cat.php?id=62>


Kalo pengin tahu simulasi penghitungan pajak PPh Ps 21 secara simple bisa
klik di PajakOnline.comSitusnya lumayan bagus, ada kalkulator bwat
penghitungan PPh Ps 21.

Peraturannya juga lengkap, sayang berbayar. Saya sih udah coba
(250.000/tahun) tapi worthed juga lah....konsultasi juga dilayani dengan
baik, bisa via YM lagi.

Yang paling saya seneng artikel belajar pajaknya..lengkap banget plus ada
link dasar hukumnya lagi.

Y mungkin itu jawaban singkat dari saya...CMIIW

Wass...senang saling membantu antar insan perpajakan Indonesia..

2008/11/21 bigindo <bigindo@centrin.net.id>

> Mohon bantuan semuanya,
>
> saya ada beberapa pertanyaan :
> 1. Bagaimana cara memperoleh NPWP secara collectif apakah ada form yang
> harus saya isi.
> 2. Untuk menghitung PPH 21 apakah berdasarkan Gaji Pokok saja atau ikut
> tunjangan.
>
> Trimakasih atas bantuan semuanya.
>
> Salam,
> Lenti
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>

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Re: [taxchat] Research Deals

Arnold's Taxfinder.

2008/11/21 Cris Kelly <ckelship@yahoo.com>

Finally getting around to ordering next year's research / Does anyone know of any good deals?

 

Or if there is anyone that I should stay away from?

 

Thanks,

 

Cris

 

 


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RE: [taxchat] Great Backup System

I have a client who once threatened to fire me because I didn’t have some kind of $600 HD scrambler device on my office computer.  He was afraid someone would break in and carry off the whole box.

 

I’m on the 8th floor of a secure, guarded building.  It could happen anyway, but the last thing the thieves would be interested in is THAT guy’s stuff.  Every card at the limit, all the time.  Thieves steal his ID, all that will happen is they’ll get bill collectors started calling them.

 

Chuck

 

From: taxchat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:taxchat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of MKR
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 4:20 PM
To: taxchat@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [taxchat] Great Backup System

 

Do you have a off-site backup arrangement? I have seen all kinds of catastrophies including system getting stolen.

 

mkr

 

On 11/21/08, Colin Cody <taxspecialst@earthlink.net> wrote:

A year ago I picked up Windows Home Server (via a HP MediaSmart Server)

Once configured it works all by itself.  When there's a problem, a bright colored icon lights up on the system tray of my computer monitor. 

 

From time to time I have restored a file, choosing it from any easily accessible number of back up dates available to choose from.  Works great.

The Server itself has some MS method of doing a RAID-like incremental file storage.  So it needs to extract the data to get the file copied to where ever I want to send it.   There's bays for 4 drives, and they claim if one or two drives crash, just replace them and the system will rebuild itself.

 

 

I had my C:\ drive die last month.  (I was expecting it to die and so at night I'd shut all programs down so the 3:00AM Smart Server back-up would have everything nice and clean and there'd be no last minute changes for e-mail arrivals, etc..    As fate would have it, right after the back-up routine one night, as I came in the office in the morning, my monitor indicated the hard disc had died.

 

As promised, Windows Home Server re-created the a bootable C:\ drive onto a brand new hard disc (it took 20 hours to rebuild the 150G of data)

 

It is a great backup system!  I highly recommend it.  And if MS ever gets the "Home Server shadow copy" to work, it will be even better than great!

 


Colin Cody, CPA

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Mel Wolfson

Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 7:18 PM

Subject: RE: [taxchat] Great Backup System


 

What I was wondering was whether the software writes the data in a proprietary fashion. If you  can open a file in your backup from Windows, I guess that would not be the case.

 


From: taxchat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:taxchat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Stevens, Equi-Tax
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 5:18 PM
To: taxchat@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [taxchat] Great Backup System

 

I don't know, but the system comes as a package, with the dock, the cartridge(s) and the software.  Why wouldn't you want to use the software?  I believe it's optional as to whether you want to install the software.

John Stevens, EA
Stevens Tax & Accounting, Inc., dba Equi-Tax
1870 - 50th St. E., Suite 8
Inver Grove Heights, MN 55077
651-773-5000
FAX 651-457-4529
equitax@unique-software.com
www.equitax.net


From: taxchat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:taxchat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mel Wolfson
Sent: 11/20/2008 2:36 PM
To: taxchat@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [taxchat] Great Backup System

One last question, can you read the data on the backup without using the Quantum software or is it in a proprietary format?


From: taxchat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:taxchat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Stevens, Equi-Tax
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 3:00 PM
To: taxchat@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [taxchat] Great Backup System

No, Mel, Gear Up is not recommending a system for which they no longer make the docks.  I was stating a hypothetical, a what if scenario, ie. what if Quantum discontinued making the docks, and a dock failed, and I only had a data-filled cartridge with no serviceable dock into which to insert it?

Regarding the fact that the external dock is hooked up to a USB port, it only takes 13 minutes to do a backup of my system after the initial backup, because it leaves all prior data intact, and only adds changed or new data.  That was the main reason I found this GoVault system so attractive.  I can walk out the door at the end of the day with a complete backup of my server, rather than wait until the next morning to exchange the external hard drive that got backed up during the night.  The boot time isn't an issue at all.

John Stevens, EA
Stevens Tax & Accounting, Inc., dba Equi-Tax
1870 - 50th St. E., Suite 8
Inver Grove Heights, MN 55077
651-773-5000
FAX 651-457-4529
equitax@unique-software.com
www.equitax.net

 


From: taxchat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:taxchat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mel Wolfson
Sent: 11/20/2008 12:31 PM
To: taxchat@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [taxchat] Great Backup System

GearUp is recommending a system for which they no longer make the docks? Perhaps there is a software only version that would work with external drives. My one gripe with the usb drives is that they are much slower and if you have more than one installed on a pc, it takes much longer to boot. (on a newer pc with Vista that may not be an issue).


From: taxchat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:taxchat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Stevens, Equi-Tax
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 1:11 PM
To: taxchat@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [taxchat] Great Backup System

Thanks for the input, Mel.  I appreciate it.  I still have my external hard drives that I used to use.  Maybe I'll hook them back up for redundancy.  Another idea may be to purchase an additional dock in the event that the dock fails in 5 years or so, and Quantum has discontinued making the GoVault docks.  I know that some people used to always purchase extra tape drives for the same reason.  I already have an extra cartridge.

I don't think you're paranoid – the more backup the better.

My own tech guy has similar reservations about online backup.  He's been in the business for 30-40 years, was a programmer/systems analyst at Unisys after graduating in math in '72, and eventually set up his own shop.  He's been building my computers for about 10 years, and has helped me through hard drive crashes, in fact, one server crashed about February 10th a few years ago, and I was up and running very quickly.  I was using a tape backup at the time.  He's the one that recommended the mirrored hard drive and external hard drive backup.  Actually, he put my operating system on one hard drive (the C drive, not a virtual drive, but an actual hard drive), and installed a mirrored D drive also. 

John Stevens, EA
Stevens Tax & Accounting, Inc., dba Equi-Tax
1870 - 50th St. E., Suite 8
Inver Grove Heights, MN 55077
651-773-5000
FAX 651-457-4529
equitax@unique-software.com
www.equitax.net




From: taxchat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:taxchat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mel Wolfson
Sent: 11/20/2008 11:55 AM
To: taxchat@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [taxchat] Great Backup System

I looked up GoVault. It seems to be a removable hard disk cartridge. The two places where there might be a concern, not saying how great a concern that might be because I don't know are, that the cartridge could fail or that the docking system goes on you. Hard disks do fail. Should that happen while all is working properly, you could insert a new cartridge and make a clean backup of everything. If the dock goes, you might lose the data along with the dock.

This is all speculation of course. I don't trust any one backup system. Perhaps I'm paranoid. My brother-in-law lost his entire office in a flood. Since the data was backed up, he was able to restore. (This happened twice during a single tax season.) If he had been relying entirely on GoVault, I can't say whether his situation would have been better or worse. Do you know whether they guarantee that if you have to replace the dock (or whatever they call the system into which the cartridges are inserted), whether the new dock is guaranteed to read the disks created by the old one? As you know, if a hard disk controller goes, the replacement may not be able to read the data from the drive created by the old one.

In the days when people backed up to tape, they maintained several backups. Does GoVault recommend the same with their product.

I'm asklng this not to knock GoVault but because I would seriously consider this as an alternative to what I'm using know which is a combination of USB drives and internet backup. I'd probably keep the internet backup regardless of what the two folks from GearUp say.


From: taxchat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:taxchat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Stevens, Equi-Tax
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 12:36 PM
To: taxchat@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [taxchat] Great Backup System

Mel,

  1. I don't know technically what type of storage it is, but I asked the rep at Quantum whether I could reproduce all applications and data from the cartridge onto a new hard drive, and he said yes.  They use a term called, data deduplication.  Here's from the manual:

"The GoVault data protection software is an archiving/capacity-optimization application designed for use with removable GoVault cartridges.  To better optimize the long-term storage of digital content, the GoVault data protection software uses innovative technology to virtually eliminate redundant information stored for a given set of data.

The GoVault data protection software uses a heuristic approach to optimally segment data, and Common Content Factoring™ to uniquely identify each segment and store it only once.  For a given version of a set of data, new segments are stored along with metadata used to reconstruct this version from these new segments and possibly other segments stored at earlier points in time.

By factoring out common data, the effective capacity of a GoVault cartridge is significantly increased without loss of functionality and with increased performance of the archiving system.  In short, the GoVault data protection software makes long-term disk-based archiving fast, easy, and affordable."

And from another part of the manual:

"Using Windows System Recovery

The GoVault data protection software is a data protection application, intended to backup and recover your important data files.  It is not intended and will not function as a system recovery tool.

Always use the Windows System Recovery utility to restore your computer operating system and installed applications.

Also, after performing an Everything type restore operation, use Windows System Recovery if you encounter any irregularities with you operating system or applications."

From that I would interpret that if you are trying to restore your operating system from the cartridge, you may also need to restore it from your CD if it doesn't seem right.

  1. I agree that a multipronged approach is advisable.  They do advise doing test restores.  They say to replace cartridges after 10 years.

The thing that influenced me more than anything else to try the system is the fact that Rick Oelerich uses it.  He's been in the business for about 35 years, and is very tech savvy.

John Stevens, EA
Stevens Tax & Accounting, Inc., dba Equi-Tax
1870 - 50th St. E., Suite 8
Inver Grove Heights, MN 55077
651-773-5000
FAX 651-457-4529
equitax@unique-software.com
www.equitax.net





From: taxchat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:taxchat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mel Wolfson
Sent: 11/20/2008 10:45 AM
To: taxchat@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [taxchat] Great Backup System

What type of storage does the cartridge use?

My feeling is that you need a multipronged approach. Any one system you're using could be failing and you might not know that this is happening. Did they suggest doing a test restore on a regular interval and replacing the cartridges on a scheduled basis? Both might be prudent if that's the only thing you use.

As for on line backup, I think the security issues are not that great if you upload encrypted data to which only you have the key.


From: taxchat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:taxchat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Stevens, Equi-Tax
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 11:25 AM
To: taxchat@yahoogroups.com; 'TaxTalk Listserv Members'
Subject: [taxchat] Great Backup System

Hello all,

I recently attended the Gear Up Technology seminar.  One of the instructors, Rick Oelerich, EA, recommended a system from Quantum called GoVault.  He said you can back up your entire hard drive, applications and data.  He said the first backup takes awhile, but after that it only takes a few minutes because it only adds new files or changed files.  I decided to try it.  The first backup took a full 24 hours to get 42 GB.  Now it only takes 13 minutes.  I do it at the end of the day and take the backup cartridge home.  If the computer's hard drive would fail, I could be up and running very quickly with the backup cartridge, which could be copied to a new hard drive.  There are 2 models to the system, an internal dock, or an external dock that plugs into a USB port, and a variety of cartridge sizes, ranging from 40 GB up to 320 GB.  I got 2 160 GB cartridges.  I also use a mirrored hard drive to give me up-to-the minute backup, but the problem with that is that if the hard drive begins to fail, the mirrored drive will be recording identically.

I was backing up to an external hard drive connected to a USB port.  It would back up during the night and take about 2 hours.  I would then exchange it with a second drive in the morning, and repeat the process.  I like the new system better because I get an immediate backup that I can take off site right away.

Both instructors at the seminar, Carl Heinz, CPA, and Rick Oelerich, EA, did not like backing up online because of security issues.

John Stevens, EA
Stevens Tax & Accounting, Inc., dba Equi-Tax
1870 - 50th St. E., Suite 8
Inver Grove Heights, MN 55077
651-773-5000
FAX 651-457-4529
equitax@unique-software.com
www.equitax.net






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