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20 November 2008

[forum-pajak] Pajak Luar Negeri

Selamat pagi para anggota forum.

Mohon info untuk permasalahan dibawah ini :

PT. A adalah sebuah perusahaan yg bergerak dibidang kontraktor dan sudah
PKP, menerima Surat Perintah Kerja dari Perusahaan B (LN) untuk
melaksanakan renovasi sebuah hotel di LN. PT. A bermaksud akan membawa
tenaga kerja local untuk melaksanakan renovasi dimaksud.

Pertanyaan :

1. Pajak apa sajakah yg akan timbul atas kasus diatas.
2. Apabila saatnya nanti PT. A menerima termin dari Perusahaan B, apakah
akan ada potongan pajaknya ( jika ada, pajak apa dan berapa banyak ).

Terima kasih.

limrot

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Re: [forum-pajak] NPWP 2007 SALAH TULIS

Bisa, nanti semua bukti potong yang diterima di cabang akan dimasukkan ke daftar kredit pajak pada pelaporan SPT Tahunan Badan di 1771-III


--- On Sun, 11/16/08, CHANDRA TPE <chandra@skay.co.id> wrote:

> From: CHANDRA TPE <chandra@skay.co.id>
> Subject: [forum-pajak] NPWP 2007 SALAH TULIS
> To: forum-pajak@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, November 16, 2008, 10:21 PM
> dear pajakers,
>
> saya terima bukti potong pph 23, tapi npwp yang tertulis
> di bukti potong
> tsb salah ( untuk cabang bukan untuk kantor pusat ).
> apakah bukti potong tsb bisa djadikan sebagai kredit pajak?
> kalau tidak,
> apakah sipemotong harus melakukan pembetulan spt masa pph
> 23? atau ada cara
> lain.?
>
> terima kasih atas masukannya,
>
> salam,
> chandra


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[forum-pajak] NPWP

Mohon bantuan semuanya,

saya ada beberapa pertanyaan :
1. Bagaimana cara memperoleh NPWP secara collectif apakah ada form yang harus saya isi.
2. Untuk menghitung PPH 21 apakah berdasarkan Gaji Pokok saja atau ikut tunjangan.

Trimakasih atas bantuan semuanya.

Salam,
Lenti


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Re: [forum-pajak] SPT OP Sunset Policy

Dalam rangka Sunset Policy maka WP yang terdaftar sebelum tahun 2008 hanya diperbolehkan untuk melakukan pembetulan SPT Tahun 2006 dan sebelumnya.
Semoga membantu.

BR,

Gianto


----- Original Message -----
From: meinardo prihartono
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Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 10:54 AM
Subject: [forum-pajak] SPT OP Sunset Policy


Dear rekan2x milis

mau tanya dong, sehubungan dengan penyampaian SPT PPh OP dalam rangka sunset policy. Apakah penghapusan sanksi administrasi atas penyampaian SPT tahun pajak 2007 bagi WP OP yang memiliki NPWP sebelum 2008 juga berlaku ?
. ,___

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[forum-pajak] Re:tax treaty

saya sudah mencari di www.pajak.go.id bagian peraturan dan taxtrety, tidak menjumpai perjanjian indonesia hongkong, coba bapak tanya yang lain, atau saya kurang teliti membacanya..
ths..
hidup belajar pajak :)


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Re: [forum-pajak] Juklak PP 51 - PPh Jasa Konstruksi

koq agak sulit downloadnya ya mba


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From: Triyani <triyani@indosat.net.id>
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Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 10:28:11 AM
Subject: [forum-pajak] Juklak PP 51 - PPh Jasa Konstruksi


FYI;
Telah terbit PMK-187/PMK. 03/2008 tanggal 20 November 2008 Tentang
Tata Cara Pemotongan, Penyetoran, Pelaporan, Dan Penatausahaan Pajak
Penghasilan Atas Penghasilan Dari Usaha Jasa Konstruksi

http://triyani. wordpress. com/2008/ 11/21/juklak- pp-51-pph- jasa-konstruksi/

Salam,
Triyani


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Re: [forum-pajak] Form PPN 1108

Saya juga mengalaminya, saya tanya ARnya kenapa? ternyata formnya hurufnya besarnya tidak sama dengan form dari KPP (saya dapat versi excel), solusinya download saja dari www.pajak.go.id kemudian isi form yang .pdf dimasukkan lagi ke KPP beres dah urusan.

pendapat lain silahkan

Awal

----- Original Message -----
From: Thio Sunaryo
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Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 4:55 PM
Subject: [forum-pajak] Form PPN 1108


Selamat sore semua,

Sekedar mau tanya, tadi siang saya lapor PPN dengan menggunakan form 1108 yang dicetak sendiri/ print dari komputer (file dari temen) ditolak sama petugas, katanya harus menggunakan form yang dari KPP, alasannya belum ada petunjuk tentang form yang cetak sendiri tersebut bisa diterima atau tidak.

Kenapa seperti itu ya ? ada penjelasan yg lebih dari rekan-rekan sekalian

terima kasih

salam

thio

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Re: [forum-pajak] potongan debet note

Dear milister n' pakar pajak

Mohon dibantu nich Urgent
prsh kami memberi order ke prsh lain dan tagihannya kami potong pph 23 (3%)
pada saat bersamaan ada sevice (ada perbaikan pekerjaan) dan kami pun dapat tagihan berupa Debet Note.
yang saya tanyakan apakah DN tersebut harus di potong PPH 23 lagi atau tidak?

** tagihan berupa Debet note karena tidak ada kontarak service ulang

b' rgards
van's

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RE: [forum-pajak] Juklak PP 51 - PPh Jasa Konstruksi

Terimakasih Informasinya bu guru

-----Original Message-----
From: forum-pajak@yahoogroups.com [mailto:forum-pajak@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Triyani
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 10:28 AM
To: forum-pajak@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [forum-pajak] Juklak PP 51 - PPh Jasa Konstruksi

FYI;
Telah terbit PMK-187/PMK.03/2008 tanggal 20 November 2008 Tentang
Tata Cara Pemotongan, Penyetoran, Pelaporan, Dan Penatausahaan Pajak
Penghasilan Atas Penghasilan Dari Usaha Jasa Konstruksi

http://triyani.wordpress.com/2008/11/21/juklak-pp-51-pph-jasa-konstruksi/

Salam,
Triyani


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RE: [forum-pajak] Tanya NPWP Karyawan

Menurut saya tarif 20% lebih tinggi sih ga ngaruh, karena penghasilan kena pajak didapet dari pengurangan PTKP terlebih dahulu.

--- On Thu, 11/20/08, accty <accty@bussan.co.id> wrote:

> From: accty <accty@bussan.co.id>
> Subject: RE: [forum-pajak] Tanya NPWP Karyawan
> To: forum-pajak@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, November 20, 2008, 11:37 AM
> Bu Deasy,
>
>
>
> Setahu saya, jika penghasilannya tidak melebihi PTKP-nya,
> maka karyawan
> tsb tidak harus bikin NPWP.
>
> Tapi nanti dengan peraturan baru, tariff pajaknya dihitung
> 20% lebih
> besar dari yang punya NPWP. Kalo sudah ditambah 20% aja
> masih nihil,
> menurut saya, gak perlu bikin NPWP bu. CMIIW
>
>
>
> Tx,
>
> Ronald
>
>
>
> ________________________________
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> From: forum-pajak@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:forum-pajak@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of gilang permana
> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 9:23 AM
> To: forum-pajak@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Bls: [forum-pajak] Tanya NPWP Karyawan
>
>
>
> melaporkan itu adalah hak dan kewajiban setiap orang yang
> mempunyai
> penghasilan, jadi walaupun nihil ya dilaporkan nihil. untuk
> pembuatan
> npwp itu diwajibkan buat semua orang yang telah memiliki
> penghasilan
> tidak terkecuali supir.
> jika salah mohon dikoreksi
>
> Best Regards
>
> Gumilang Permana
>
> --- Pada Rab, 19/11/08, Deasy Christine
> <deasy_rg@yahoo.com
> <mailto:deasy_rg%40yahoo.com> > menulis:
> Dari: Deasy Christine <deasy_rg@yahoo.com
> <mailto:deasy_rg%40yahoo.com>
> >
> Topik: [forum-pajak] Tanya NPWP Karyawan
> Kepada: "forum pajak"
> <forum-pajak@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:forum-pajak%40yahoogroups.com> >
> Tanggal: Rabu, 19 November, 2008, 10:32 AM
>
> Temans, peraturan baru khan mewajibkan semua karyawan hrs
> punya NPWP,
> bagai mana dengan sopir, security dan office boy, agak
> susah menerangkan
> masalah NPWP kepada mereka dan kalau dihitung pph nya jg
> nihil, apakah
> bemasalah dengan pelaporan spt perusahaan ?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Deasy
>
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Re: [forum-pajak] Form PPN 1108

saya juga pernah ngalamin hal yg sama tp saya punya masih diterima :p
alasannya karena mereka katanya pake sistem scan, kalo formatnya harus
sama dengan yg mereka kasih, katanya kalo pake cetakan ukuran samping kiri
kanan atas dan bawah bisa gak sama dan nantinya bisa gak ke
scan.. 
dari pada debat panjang lebar ya udah lah diikutin
aja..

> Selamat sore semua,
>
> Sekedar mau tanya, tadi siang saya lapor PPN dengan menggunakan
form 1108
> yang dicetak sendiri/ print dari komputer (file dari
temen) ditolak sama
> petugas, katanya harus menggunakan form
yang dari KPP, alasannya belum ada
> petunjuk tentang form yang
cetak sendiri tersebut bisa diterima atau
> tidak.
>
> Kenapa seperti itu ya ? ada penjelasan yg lebih dari rekan-rekan
sekalian
>
>
> terima kasih
>
> salam
>
> thio
>
>
>

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[forum-pajak] Juklak PP 51 - PPh Jasa Konstruksi

FYI;
Telah terbit PMK-187/PMK.03/2008 tanggal 20 November 2008 Tentang
Tata Cara Pemotongan, Penyetoran, Pelaporan, Dan Penatausahaan Pajak
Penghasilan Atas Penghasilan Dari Usaha Jasa Konstruksi

http://triyani.wordpress.com/2008/11/21/juklak-pp-51-pph-jasa-konstruksi/

Salam,
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[forum-pajak] E-spt

oh ya bener..pake PDF..bisa print 1 halaman..tidak ada yang kepotong..juga garis pinggirnya kebawa...
hemm TOP dehh buat saran-sarannya....Thnaks

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Re: [forum-pajak] Form PPN 1108

Pak Thio,
 
Dalam pasal 9 Per-29/PJ/2008 disebutkan
 
" Formulir SPT dalam bentuk kertas (hard copy) diperoleh di KPP atau di download dari situs Direktorat Jenderal Pajak, dengan alamat http://www.pajak.go.id"
 
jadi seharusnya apabila teman bapak mengisi form 1108 hasil dari download di www.pajak.go.id (dan sesuai dengan formatnya) sudah seharusnya KPP menerima form tersebut karena tidak ada satu syarat pun menyebutkan form 1108 haruslah dari KPP.
 
salam,
REV

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From: Thio Sunaryo <ts051073@yahoo.com>
Subject: [forum-pajak] Form PPN 1108
To: forum-pajak@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, November 20, 2008, 4:55 AM


Selamat sore semua,

Sekedar mau tanya, tadi siang saya lapor PPN dengan menggunakan form 1108 yang dicetak sendiri/ print dari komputer (file dari temen) ditolak sama petugas, katanya harus menggunakan form yang dari KPP, alasannya belum ada petunjuk tentang form yang cetak sendiri tersebut bisa diterima atau tidak.

Kenapa seperti itu ya ? ada penjelasan yg lebih dari rekan-rekan sekalian

terima kasih

salam

thio

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Re: [forum-pajak] Form PPN 1108

Coba Pak Thio baca di aturan

PERATURAN DIRJEN PAJAK

NOMOR PER-29/PJ/2008 TANGGAL 23 JUNI 2008

TENTANG

BENTUK, ISI, DAN TATA CARA PENYAMPAIAN SURAT PEMBERITAHUAN MASA PAJAK
PERTAMBAHAN NILAI (SPT MASA PPN) DALAM BENTUK FORMULIR KERTAS (HARD COPY)
BAGI PENGUSAHA KENA PAJAK YANG DIKUKUHKAN DI KANTOR PELAYANAN PAJAK, DALAM
RANGKA PENGOLAHAN DATA DAN DOKUMEN DI PUSAT PENGOLAHAN DATA DAN DOKUMEN
PERPAJAKAN

Dari Lampiran petunjuk pengisian nomor 2 tentang tata cara perolehan,
pencetakan, dan pengisian SPT jelas sekali dikatakan bahwa selain formulir
dari kantor pajak, WP juga bisa mencetak dan mengisi melalui file pdf yang
diberikan oleh KPP, dnegan aturan bagaimana mencetaknya lebih mendetil.

----- Original Message -----
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To: <forum-pajak@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 4:55 PM
Subject: [forum-pajak] Form PPN 1108


> Selamat sore semua,
>
> Sekedar mau tanya, tadi siang saya lapor PPN dengan menggunakan form 1108
> yang dicetak sendiri/ print dari komputer (file dari temen) ditolak sama
> petugas, katanya harus menggunakan form yang dari KPP, alasannya belum ada
> petunjuk tentang form yang cetak sendiri tersebut bisa diterima atau
> tidak.
>
> Kenapa seperti itu ya ? ada penjelasan yg lebih dari rekan-rekan sekalian
>
>
> terima kasih
>
> salam
>
> thio
>
>
>
>
> ___________________________________________________________________________
> Coba emoticon dan skin keren baru, dan area teman yang luas.
> Coba Y! Messenger 9 Indonesia sekarang.
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>
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[forum-pajak] Ulurkan bantuan anda (Muhammad Rizky 13 bulan)

Dear All

Moderator saya mohon ijin

Mudahan-mudahan Bapak/Ibu serta rekan-rekan yang berkelapangan rezeki dapat membantu meringankan beban Anak/Adik kita (rizky)
http://infojambi.com/v.1/content/view/2635/105/lang,/

Bantuan dapat disalurkan sesuai alamat yang ada pada infojambi.com
Kantor Redaksi Infojambi Jl. LKH . Yoenoes Sanis No. 42, Kebun Handil, atau lewat rekening No. 86309432 Bank Danamon Jambi Kota Indah.

Wassalam
Rizal

Rabu, 19/11/2008 | 02:02 WIB
Tragis Nasib Muhammad Rizky
KOTA JAMBI – Sungguh malang nasib Muhammad Rizky, bocah berumur 13 bulan ini harus menahan rasa sakit yang dideritanya sejak lahir. Putra pertama buah hati pasangan Aprizal dan Pandu Yuniarti ini di vonis dokter terkena Frase Sindrom. Kini ia harus terbaring di rumah sakit, untuk biaya operasi tidak punya uang. Padahal satu-satunya untuk menyelamatkan Rizky dengan Operasi.

Tidak ada tanda-tanda kelainan pada masa kehamilan. Yuniarti, ibunya mengaku pada www.infojambi.com, saat ia mengandung tidak ada gejala-gejala kelainan. Bahkan hasil ultrasonografi atau USG saat pemeriksaan kandungan menunjukan hasil yang normal. Namun ketika Rizky lahir 30 Oktober 2007 lalu, dirumahnya dengan bantuan bidan desa, entah mengapa keadaan Rizky begitu berbeda dengan anak-anak pada umumnya.

Sungguh sedih jika melihat keadaan Rizky, namun kedua orang tuanya berusaha sabar menghadapi cobaan tersebut. bahkan sekali-sekali ia mengajak Rizky bercanda menghilangkan pilu hatinya.

Tubuh Rizky memang terlihat sehat, namun pada bagian wajahnya mengalami kelainan yang sangat mengejutkan, bentuk kepalanya yang gepeng dan posisi mata yang terlihat disamping dan hidung yang hampir tidak ada batangnya. Bahkan mulut dan bibirnya sangat berbeda dari biasanya dikarenakan kelainan dalam langit-langit mulutnya. Tragisnya satu mata Rizky juga mengalami kerusakan. Tidak hanya itu, jari-jari pada tangan dan kaki Rizky juga tidak tumbuh dengan sempurna.

Bayangkan, untuk makan saja, saat usia Rizky tiga bulan dia terpaksa menggunakan selang. Untungnya saat ini Rizky sudah bisa memakai dot untuk makan dan minumnya.

Orang tua Rizky, yang tinggal di Jalan Hutan Lindung Rt 17 Muara Bulian Kabupaten Batanghari ini pernah membawa Rizky berobat di rumah sakit Cipto Mangunkusumo Jakarta, namun karena keterbatasan dana Rizky terpaksa dibawa pulang. ''Dulu pernah kami bawa berobat, katanya Rizky harus di Operasi dan tidak cukup sekali, minimal 4-6 kali, dengan gambaran biaya mencapai 20 jutaan saat itu,'' terang Aprizal, ayahnya yang bekerja di dinas perkebunan Pemda Batanghari ini.

Menurutnya, saat itu dia menggunakan kartu askes namun di rumah sakit tersebut askes tidak bisa di gunakan untuk biaya pengobtan. ''Pakai askes tidak bisa, biaya kami tidak cukup,'' akunya sedih.

Kami seluruh crew www.infojambi.com mengajak para pembaca kembali untuk mengulurkan bantuan seihklasnya, membantu meringankan beban Muhamad Rizky (13 bulan) serta membantu untuk biaya operasi Rizky. (ij-03)

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Re: [taxchat] ITIN

He must have a Social Security to qualify for EIC.
 
Julio Romero.
Romero's Tax Service


From: Arnold M. Socol <waymeans@verizon.net>
To: taxchat@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 1:59:33 PM
Subject: Re: [taxchat] ITIN

You are sure its a SSN and not a TIN?
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: 11/20/2008 4:52 PM
Subject: [taxchat] ITIN

My client, a US Citizen, married a man from So America. He just received a tax number that starts with 942-XX-XXXX.  When I went back to amend the 07 return to add him on, and when I changed from Single to MFJ, the EIC was eliminated. 
 
 The EIC worksheet message said the Social Security number was invalid for EIC purposes. What is the next step the spouse must take to be eligible for EIC?
 
 
Donna J. Perrone, EA
East Haven, CT
203-469-4939
203-468-2038 fax
 
 

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Re: [forum-pajak] Form PPN 1108 Ditolak ??

Memang banyak terjadi kasus demikian dan tiap KPP beda kebijakan..ada yang mengerti permasalahan WP tetapi banyak juga yang terlalu kaku. Ini kejadian di saya juga untuk group perusahaaan yang masih dibawah 30FP yang memakai 1108,...tetapi seperti biasa pas lapor ditolak dengan alasan yang beragam yang menurut saya tidak masuk akal. Seharusnya kalau begini DJP tidak perlu buat aturan demikian yang hanya menyusahkan WP dimana WP sudah mau melaporkan pajak tetapi dipersulit.
Dengan kejadian yang saya alami ini akhirnya solusinya karena Induk perusahaan saya sudah menggunakan efiling, sehingga untuk antisipasinya agar tidak terjadi penolakan lagi akhirnya saya menggunakan efiling untuk menggantikan form 1108 karena kalau efiling media pembuatan eSPT kita tetap menggunakan eSPT1107 hanya pelaporannya saja melalui media internet. Saran diatas adalah dari AR saya untuk menyuruh menggunakan efiling dari ASP yang ditunjuk ( Pajakku.com yang kebetulan direkomendasikan oleh AR saya ) karena form yg akan digunakan adalah tetap 1107. Demikian sharing pengalaman dan informasi dari saya semoga bermanfaat bagi rekan-rekan yang punya masalah penolakan pada saat pelaporan FORM PPN1108. Terima kasih 

--- On Thu, 11/20/08, Thio Sunaryo <ts051073@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Thio Sunaryo <ts051073@yahoo.com>
Subject: [forum-pajak] Form PPN 1108
To: forum-pajak@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, November 20, 2008, 1:55 AM


Selamat sore semua,

Sekedar mau tanya, tadi siang saya lapor PPN dengan menggunakan form 1108 yang dicetak sendiri/ print dari komputer (file dari temen) ditolak sama petugas, katanya harus menggunakan form yang dari KPP, alasannya belum ada petunjuk tentang form yang cetak sendiri tersebut bisa diterima atau tidak.

Kenapa seperti itu ya ? ada penjelasan yg lebih dari rekan-rekan sekalian

terima kasih

salam

thio

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[forum-pajak] Re: dana cadangan koperasi

Pendapat:
- Alokasi SHU berdasarkan anggaran dasar/rumah tangga tidak boleh
dikurangkan sebagai biaya.
- SHU sifatnya sama seperti Dividen dan merupakan penghasilan -> UU
PPH Pasal 4(1) huruf g
- SHU yang dibayarkan kepada anggota tidak dipotong PPh pasal
23(4)huruf f UU PPh
-
--- In forum-pajak@yahoogroups.com, "endank_funny" <endank_funny@...>
wrote:
>
> milis forum pajak,salam kenal..
> koperasi jasa keuangan syariah, menghitung pajak penghasilan terutang
> badannya dengan format sbb:
> pendapatan - beban - alokasi SHU = pkp
> >Alokasi SHU disini, terdiri dr dana pendidikan,jasa simpan pinjam,
> jasa usaha, dana pengurus, dana karyawan,dana sosial,dan pembangunan
> daerah kerja yang prosentasenya ditentukan dlm AD ART Koperasi tsb.
> Yang saya ketahui, SHU - alokasi SHU = dana cadangan, secara tak
> langsung koperasi tersebut menghitung pajak nya adalah dana cadangan x
> tarif pajak.
> Pertanyaan saya, apakah cara perhitungan di atas dapat dibenarkan?
> dasar hukum apa yang dipakai?
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[forum-pajak] SPT O.P 1770 dibawah tahun 2007 in XLS

Dear all,

temans ada yg punya SPT OP 1770 dibawah tahun 2007 ndak, mau dong biasa buat
sunset, tolong ya thanks in advance.


Regards,
Melky


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RE: [forum-pajak] Cetak ESPT

Bener tuh saran bu Novia. Saya juga alami kok. Paste di MS word saja dan
print seperti biasa.

"Kalo saya copy hasil priview-nya dan paste di word, soalnya kalau langsung
suka gak lengkap ke printnya. Pilih cetak spm lalu copy per halaman. Klik
aja tombol copy di kiri atas trus paste di word, selanjutnya silahkan atur
margin agar hasil print gak kecil2 amat.

Semoga bisa jadi solusi

Regards,

Ronny

ShiMoToToFu

Why do I need to worry? For God is my provider!"

From: forum-pajak@yahoogroups.com [mailto:forum-pajak@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Novia Susanti
Sent: 21 Nopember 2008 7:34
To: forum-pajak@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [forum-pajak] Cetak ESPT

Mungkin bisa coba cara saya,

1. buka msword, setting kertas ke legal dengan margin kiri, kanan, atas,
bawah semua 1 cm
2. copy cetakan lembar 1 SPT induk di eSPT
3. paste di ms word
4. copy cetakan lembar 2 SPT induk di eSPT
5. paste di ms word
6. klik copy-an lembar kedua di ms word, lalu crop bagian bawahnya yang
kosong. Pastikan toolbar picture di tab view ter-centang.

silakan mencoba.

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To: forum-pajak@yahoogroups.com <mailto:forum-pajak%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 11:57:34
Subject: Re: [forum-pajak] Cetak ESPT

saya sudah coba..tetep gak bisa yahhhh...tetep 2 lmebar keluarnya... trus
malah bawahnya kepotong..nama orang yang tandatangan tidak terprint..duhh
bingung nihhh

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To: forum-pajak@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 9:32:34 AM
Subject: [forum-pajak] Cetak ESPT

Bisa Bu... dapat diakali kok. Caranya : Kita harus Add Printer pilih yg type
Dot matrix LQ 1170 atau tipe lainnya pokoknya dot matrix, terus didefault.

setelah sukses Add Printer dan didefault. coba cetak ESPT nya. tapi cetaknya
ke printer ibu. Saya selama ini memakai cara itu, awalnya saya juga sempat
bingung spt ibu.

Jadi gak usah beli printer baru kan....!!!

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Re: [taxchat] ITIN

He must get an actual SSN, then you can amend.  Otherwise, they're stuck.
 
 
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 4:09 PM
Subject: RE: [taxchat] ITIN

Yes, it is a TIN.  But what is the next step for them to take so they can get EIC?
 
Donna J. Perrone, EA
East Haven, CT
203-469-4939
203-468-2038 fax
 
 

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From: taxchat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:taxchat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mel Wolfson
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 5:07 PM
To: taxchat@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [taxchat] ITIN

Numbers that start with a "9" are an ITIN. I don't think that you can use one for EIC.


From: taxchat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:taxchat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna J. Perrone
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 4:52 PM
To: taxchat@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [taxchat] ITIN

My client, a US Citizen, married a man from So America. He just received a tax number that starts with 942-XX-XXXX.  When I went back to amend the 07 return to add him on, and when I changed from Single to MFJ, the EIC was eliminated. 
 
 The EIC worksheet message said the Social Security number was invalid for EIC purposes. What is the next step the spouse must take to be eligible for EIC?
 
 
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203-469-4939
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[forum-pajak] Salam Kenal

Rekan rekan,


saya masih awam dan sedang mencari tempat kursus pajak untuk menambah ilmu. mohon pencerahan kiranya dimana kursus yang OK....


trims atas bantuannya

salam
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Re: [forum-pajak] Cetak ESPT

Mungkin bisa coba cara saya,

1. buka msword, setting kertas ke legal dengan margin kiri, kanan, atas, bawah semua 1 cm
2. copy cetakan lembar 1 SPT induk di eSPT
3. paste di ms word
4. copy cetakan lembar 2 SPT induk di eSPT
5. paste di ms word
6. klik copy-an lembar kedua di ms word, lalu crop bagian bawahnya yang kosong. Pastikan toolbar picture di tab view ter-centang.

silakan mencoba.


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From: zahara sulastri <zaharasulastri@yahoo.com>
To: forum-pajak@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 11:57:34
Subject: Re: [forum-pajak] Cetak ESPT


saya sudah coba..tetep gak bisa yahhhh...tetep 2 lmebar keluarnya... trus malah bawahnya kepotong..nama orang yang tandatangan tidak terprint..duhh bingung nihhh

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From: QQ. <qoqom75@yahoo. com>
To: forum-pajak@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 9:32:34 AM
Subject: [forum-pajak] Cetak ESPT

Bisa Bu... dapat diakali kok. Caranya : Kita harus Add Printer pilih yg type Dot matrix LQ 1170 atau tipe lainnya pokoknya dot matrix, terus didefault.

setelah sukses Add Printer dan didefault. coba cetak ESPT nya. tapi cetaknya ke printer ibu. Saya selama ini memakai cara itu, awalnya saya juga sempat bingung spt ibu.

Jadi gak usah beli printer baru kan....!!!

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[forum-pajak] Pasal 21 UU KUP

Para tax experts,
 
mohon pencerahan ttg pasal 21 UU KUP. Bagaimana implementasi hak
mendahulu negara atas utang pajak? Apakah pasal 21 ini baru secara
nyata terlihat pada saat wajib pajak pailit atau dilikuidasi?
 
Implementasi tenggang waktu 5 tahun itu seperti apa ya?
 
Many thanks
Silalahi
 
 
 
Pasal 21
(1)      Negara mempunyai hak mendahulu untuk utang pajak atas barang-barang milik Penanggung Pajak.
(3)      Hak mendahulu untuk utang pajak melebihi segala hak mendahulu lainnya, kecuali terhadap:
a.       biaya perkara yang hanya disebabkan oleh suatu penghukuman untuk melelang suatu barang bergerak dan/atau barang tidak bergerak;
b.       biaya yang telah dikeluarkan untuk menyelamatkan barang dimaksud; dan/atau
c.      biaya perkara, yang hanya disebabkan oleh pelelangan dan penyelesaian suatu warisan.
(3a)    Dalam hal Wajib Pajak dinyatakan pailit, bubar, atau dilikuidasi maka kurator, likuidator, atau orang atau badan yang ditugasi untuk melakukan pemberesan dilarang membagikan harta Wajib Pajak dalam pailit, pembubaran atau likuidasi kepada pemegang saham atau kreditur lainnya sebelum menggunakan harta tersebut untuk membayar utang pajak Wajib Pajak tersebut.
4)       Hak mendahulu hilang setelah melampaui waktu 5 (lima) tahun sejak tanggal diterbitkan Surat Tagihan Pajak, Surat Ketetapan Pajak Kurang Bayar, Surat Ketetapan Pajak Kurang Bayar Tambahan, Surat Keputusan Pembetulan, Surat Keputusan Keberatan, Putusan Banding, atau Putusan Peninjauan Kembali yang menyebabkan jumlah pajak yang harus dibayar bertambah.
--- On Wed, 19/11/08, R M A <rajendra.ma@gmail.com> wrote:

From: R M A <rajendra.ma@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [forum-pajak] TKI dan TKW Bebas Pajak Penghasilan
To: forum-pajak@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, 19 November, 2008, 6:15 PM


Tapi pak.....
kok sepertinya berbeda dengan pengumuman ini ya..?

http://www.pajak. go.id/dmdocument s/wpln.pdf (ini dari situs pajak.go.id)
atau di sini
http://www.indonesi anewyork. org/index. php?option= com_docman& task=doc_ download& gid=42&Itemid= 67
(ini
dari konsulat RI di NY USA)

Pada bagian kepadanya tertulis
Kepaada Yth
Bapak/Ibu/Saudara para Warga Negara Indonesia
yang berada/bertempat tinggal di Luar Negeri

Kemudian di bawahnya tertulis
Kami percaya, bahwa Warga Negara Indonesia/Wajib Pajak yang berada di Luar
Negeri masih mempunyai ikatan batin dan cinta tanah air sehingga ikut
memanfaatkan sunset policy ini. Pembayaran pajak Anda sangat diperlukan guna
kelangsungan dan pembangunan dan pembiayaan negara.

Pertanyaannya? Apakah pengumuman ini berlaku kepada SEMUA WNI yang berada
atau bertempat tinggal di LN ataukah hanya yang kurang dari 183 hari?

Kalau dari kepadanya dinyatakan bahwa kepada WNI yang bertempat tinggal di
Luar Negeri
Padahal, pasal 2 UU PPh menyatakan bahwa Subjek pajak DN adalah OP yang
bertempat tinggal di Indonesia
dan Subjek Pajak LN adalah OP yang tidak bertempat tinggal di Indonesia
Sehingga dapat disimpulkan bahwa jika hanya berdasarkan pasal 2 UU PPh,
bagian kepada dalam pengumuman tersebut mengacu kepada pengumuman bahwa
Subjek Pajak LN yang berstatus WNI dimohon untuk mendaftarkan diri untuk
memperoleh NPWP...?

2008/11/18 devry bonte <devryiskandar@ yahoo.com>

>
>
> TKI dan TKW bebas pajak penghasilan (jika menetap dan bekerja di luarnegeri
> lebih dari 180 hari)
>
> Apa ya kira kira stimulus dibidang pajak/fiskal dari pemerintah dalam
> menghadapi krisis ekonomi global sekarang ? Untuk mencegah terjadinya PHK
> massal tahun depan.
>
> Mengapa reaksi Indonesia selalu terlambat dari negara lain, dimana Malaysia
> saja sudah menurunkan harga BBM nya beberapa kali yang mana kita ketahui
> naiknya belakangan daripada Indonesia.
>
>
>
> http://www.kompas. com/read/ xml/2008/ 11/18/20024368/ tki.dan.tkw. bebas.pajak. penghasilan.
>
> JAKARTA, SELASA- Pekerja asal Indonesia ke luar negeri, baik Tenaga Kerja
> Indonesia (TKI) maupun Tenaga Kerja Wanita (TKW) dibebaskan untuk tidak
> membayar kewajiban pajak penghasilan di Indonesia. Syaratnya, mereka telah
> menetap dan bekerja di luar negeri lebih dari setengah tahun atau 180 hari.
>
> Demikian diutarakan Kepala Kantor Wilayah Direktorat Jenderal Pajak Jakarta
> Selatan A Sjarifuddin Alsah dalam sosialisasi sunset policy kepada insan
> musik di Jakarta, Selasa (18/11).
>
> "Kami tidak membebankan wajib pajak kepada TKI dan TKW, karena biasanya
> mereka sudah dibebani wajib pajak oleh negara tempat mereka bekerja. Tapi
> kalau di bawah atau kurang dari setengah tahun, masih kami haruskan untuk
> membayar pajak penghasilan, " terang Sjarifuddin.
>
> Diberlakukannya wajib pajak di Indonesia bagi TKI dan TKW yang bekerja
> kurang dari setengah tahun, lanjut Sjarifuddin, dikarenakan pada rentang
> tersebut mereka belum mendapat wajib pajak dari negara yang
> bersangkutan. "Negara di luar negeri baru menerapkan wajib pajak kepada
> pekerja asing setelah 180 hari dia bekerja," jelasnya. (C11-08)
>
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>
>
>

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RE: [taxchat] Great Backup System

I don’t know, but the system comes as a package, with the dock, the cartridge(s) and the software.  Why wouldn’t you want to use the software?  I believe it’s optional as to whether you want to install the software.

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1870 - 50th St. E., Suite 8
Inver Grove Heights, MN 55077
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From: taxchat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:taxchat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mel Wolfson
Sent: 11/20/2008 2:36 PM
To: taxchat@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [taxchat] Great Backup System

 

One last question, can you read the data on the backup without using the Quantum software or is it in a proprietary format?

 


From: taxchat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:taxchat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Stevens, Equi-Tax
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 3:00 PM
To: taxchat@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [taxchat] Great Backup System

No, Mel, Gear Up is not recommending a system for which they no longer make the docks.  I was stating a hypothetical, a what if scenario, ie. what if Quantum discontinued making the docks, and a dock failed, and I only had a data-filled cartridge with no serviceable dock into which to insert it?

Regarding the fact that the external dock is hooked up to a USB port, it only takes 13 minutes to do a backup of my system after the initial backup, because it leaves all prior data intact, and only adds changed or new data.  That was the main reason I found this GoVault system so attractive.  I can walk out the door at the end of the day with a complete backup of my server, rather than wait until the next morning to exchange the external hard drive that got backed up during the night.  The boot time isn’t an issue at all.

John Stevens, EA
Stevens Tax & Accounting, Inc., dba Equi-Tax
1870 - 50th St. E., Suite 8
Inver Grove Heights, MN 55077
651-773-5000
FAX 651-457-4529
equitax@unique-software.com
www.equitax.net

 


From: taxchat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:taxchat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mel Wolfson
Sent: 11/20/2008 12:31 PM
To: taxchat@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [taxchat] Great Backup System

GearUp is recommending a system for which they no longer make the docks? Perhaps there is a software only version that would work with external drives. My one gripe with the usb drives is that they are much slower and if you have more than one installed on a pc, it takes much longer to boot. (on a newer pc with Vista that may not be an issue).


From: taxchat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:taxchat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Stevens, Equi-Tax
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 1:11 PM
To: taxchat@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [taxchat] Great Backup System

Thanks for the input, Mel.  I appreciate it.  I still have my external hard drives that I used to use.  Maybe I’ll hook them back up for redundancy.  Another idea may be to purchase an additional dock in the event that the dock fails in 5 years or so, and Quantum has discontinued making the GoVault docks.  I know that some people used to always purchase extra tape drives for the same reason.  I already have an extra cartridge.

I don’t think you’re paranoid – the more backup the better.

My own tech guy has similar reservations about online backup.  He’s been in the business for 30-40 years, was a programmer/systems analyst at Unisys after graduating in math in ’72, and eventually set up his own shop.  He’s been building my computers for about 10 years, and has helped me through hard drive crashes, in fact, one server crashed about February 10th a few years ago, and I was up and running very quickly.  I was using a tape backup at the time.  He’s the one that recommended the mirrored hard drive and external hard drive backup.  Actually, he put my operating system on one hard drive (the C drive, not a virtual drive, but an actual hard drive), and installed a mirrored D drive also. 

John Stevens, EA
Stevens Tax & Accounting, Inc., dba Equi-Tax
1870 - 50th St. E., Suite 8
Inver Grove Heights, MN 55077
651-773-5000
FAX 651-457-4529
equitax@unique-software.com
www.equitax.net





From: taxchat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:taxchat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mel Wolfson
Sent: 11/20/2008 11:55 AM
To: taxchat@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [taxchat] Great Backup System

I looked up GoVault. It seems to be a removable hard disk cartridge. The two places where there might be a concern, not saying how great a concern that might be because I don't know are, that the cartridge could fail or that the docking system goes on you. Hard disks do fail. Should that happen while all is working properly, you could insert a new cartridge and make a clean backup of everything. If the dock goes, you might lose the data along with the dock.

This is all speculation of course. I don't trust any one backup system. Perhaps I'm paranoid. My brother-in-law lost his entire office in a flood. Since the data was backed up, he was able to restore. (This happened twice during a single tax season.) If he had been relying entirely on GoVault, I can't say whether his situation would have been better or worse. Do you know whether they guarantee that if you have to replace the dock (or whatever they call the system into which the cartridges are inserted), whether the new dock is guaranteed to read the disks created by the old one? As you know, if a hard disk controller goes, the replacement may not be able to read the data from the drive created by the old one.

In the days when people backed up to tape, they maintained several backups. Does GoVault recommend the same with their product.

I'm asklng this not to knock GoVault but because I would seriously consider this as an alternative to what I'm using know which is a combination of USB drives and internet backup. I'd probably keep the internet backup regardless of what the two folks from GearUp say.


From: taxchat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:taxchat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Stevens, Equi-Tax
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 12:36 PM
To: taxchat@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [taxchat] Great Backup System

Mel,

  1. I don’t know technically what type of storage it is, but I asked the rep at Quantum whether I could reproduce all applications and data from the cartridge onto a new hard drive, and he said yes.  They use a term called, data deduplication.  Here’s from the manual:

“The GoVault data protection software is an archiving/capacity-optimization application designed for use with removable GoVault cartridges.  To better optimize the long-term storage of digital content, the GoVault data protection software uses innovative technology to virtually eliminate redundant information stored for a given set of data.

The GoVault data protection software uses a heuristic approach to optimally segment data, and Common Content Factoring™ to uniquely identify each segment and store it only once.  For a given version of a set of data, new segments are stored along with metadata used to reconstruct this version from these new segments and possibly other segments stored at earlier points in time.

By factoring out common data, the effective capacity of a GoVault cartridge is significantly increased without loss of functionality and with increased performance of the archiving system.  In short, the GoVault data protection software makes long-term disk-based archiving fast, easy, and affordable.”

And from another part of the manual:

“Using Windows System Recovery

The GoVault data protection software is a data protection application, intended to backup and recover your important data files.  It is not intended and will not function as a system recovery tool.

Always use the Windows System Recovery utility to restore your computer operating system and installed applications.

Also, after performing an Everything type restore operation, use Windows System Recovery if you encounter any irregularities with you operating system or applications.”

From that I would interpret that if you are trying to restore your operating system from the cartridge, you may also need to restore it from your CD if it doesn’t seem right.

  1. I agree that a multipronged approach is advisable.  They do advise doing test restores.  They say to replace cartridges after 10 years.

The thing that influenced me more than anything else to try the system is the fact that Rick Oelerich uses it.  He’s been in the business for about 35 years, and is very tech savvy.

John Stevens, EA
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From: taxchat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:taxchat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mel Wolfson
Sent: 11/20/2008 10:45 AM
To: taxchat@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [taxchat] Great Backup System

What type of storage does the cartridge use?

My feeling is that you need a multipronged approach. Any one system you're using could be failing and you might not know that this is happening. Did they suggest doing a test restore on a regular interval and replacing the cartridges on a scheduled basis? Both might be prudent if that's the only thing you use.

As for on line backup, I think the security issues are not that great if you upload encrypted data to which only you have the key.


From: taxchat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:taxchat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Stevens, Equi-Tax
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 11:25 AM
To: taxchat@yahoogroups.com; 'TaxTalk Listserv Members'
Subject: [taxchat] Great Backup System

Hello all,

I recently attended the Gear Up Technology seminar.  One of the instructors, Rick Oelerich, EA, recommended a system from Quantum called GoVault.  He said you can back up your entire hard drive, applications and data.  He said the first backup takes awhile, but after that it only takes a few minutes because it only adds new files or changed files.  I decided to try it.  The first backup took a full 24 hours to get 42 GB.  Now it only takes 13 minutes.  I do it at the end of the day and take the backup cartridge home.  If the computer’s hard drive would fail, I could be up and running very quickly with the backup cartridge, which could be copied to a new hard drive.  There are 2 models to the system, an internal dock, or an external dock that plugs into a USB port, and a variety of cartridge sizes, ranging from 40 GB up to 320 GB.  I got 2 160 GB cartridges.  I also use a mirrored hard drive to give me up-to-the minute backup, but the problem with that is that if the hard drive begins to fail, the mirrored drive will be recording identically.

I was backing up to an external hard drive connected to a USB port.  It would back up during the night and take about 2 hours.  I would then exchange it with a second drive in the morning, and repeat the process.  I like the new system better because I get an immediate backup that I can take off site right away.

Both instructors at the seminar, Carl Heinz, CPA, and Rick Oelerich, EA, did not like backing up online because of security issues.

John Stevens, EA
Stevens Tax & Accounting, Inc., dba Equi-Tax
1870 - 50th St. E., Suite 8
Inver Grove Heights, MN 55077
651-773-5000
FAX 651-457-4529
equitax@unique-software.com
www.equitax.net






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