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18 September 2008

[forum-pajak] Aktiva dari Laba bersih yang tidak bisa dirinci perolehannya, SUNSET

Halo semua...

Mumpung ada program sunset policy dari Ditjen Pajak neh, rencana
seorang teman akan pembetulan SPT, tetapi dia tidak tahu secara rinci
tahun perolehannya (berasal dari laba beberapa tahun). Aktiva tersebut
dibeli dari laba bersih yang belum dilaporkan pada SPT. Kira-2 begini
kejadiannya; tahun 2005 ada penambahan aktiva 900 juta, uang berasal
dari perolehan laba sejak tahun 2001. Jika dimasukkan pada daftar
kekayaan tahun 2005, pasti tidak seimbang dengan penghasilan netto
tahun 2005 yang hanya 200 juta.

Sedangkan jika dimasukkan pada daftar harta tahun 2005, pasti tuh
orang pajak akan menagih selisih penambahan harta dengan penghasilan
netto.

Pengampunan tapi kok repot ya?

Tolong bantu caranya dong...

Terima kasih

nano biak papua


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Re: [forum-pajak] Saat Membuat FP standar

Misalnya Invoice tanggal 18 September 2008 Faktur Pajak Standarnya boleh dibuat padaling akhir tanggal 31 Oktober 2008, mau tgl 31 itu hari libur atau gak ada adminnya tgl itu adalah tgl terakhir pembuatan FPnya. setelah tgl itu tidak bisa. mundur boleh.

--- Pada Kam, 18/9/08, joko baskoro <baskoro_9979@yahoo.com> menulis:

Dari: joko baskoro <baskoro_9979@yahoo.com>
Topik: Re: [forum-pajak] Saat Membuat FP standar
Kepada: forum-pajak@yahoogroups.com
Tanggal: Kamis, 18 September, 2008, 10:17 AM


pokoknya kalau PPN keluaran harus di bulan yang sama
 
ini PPN masukan pa keluaran bos?

--- On Thu, 9/18/08, lutfan maxalmina <lutfan1708@yahoo. co.id> wrote:

From: lutfan maxalmina <lutfan1708@yahoo. co.id>
Subject: Re: [forum-pajak] Saat Membuat FP standar
To: forum-pajak@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Thursday, September 18, 2008, 10:51 AM

adminnya libur, jadi boleh buat invoice tgl 1, apa tidak salah dlam nerbitinFaktur pajaknya?

--- Pada Rab, 17/9/08, joko baskoro <baskoro_9979@ yahoo.com> menulis:

Dari: joko baskoro <baskoro_9979@ yahoo.com>
Topik: Re: [forum-pajak] Saat Membuat FP standar
Kepada: forum-pajak@ yahoogroups. com
Tanggal: Rabu, 17 September, 2008, 8:46 PM

Kantornya libur ga untuk adminnya?
 
Kalo libur ya di buat sehari sesudah atau sehari sebelum

--- On Wed, 9/17/08, lutfan maxalmina <lutfan1708@ yahoo. co.id> wrote:

From: lutfan maxalmina <lutfan1708@ yahoo. co.id>
Subject: [forum-pajak] Saat Membuat FP standar
To: forum-pajak@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, September 17, 2008, 9:09 AM

Bolehkah bila tgl 31 hari sabtu/minggu atau hari libur, faktur pajak dibuat saat awal bulan selanjutnya?

____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
Dapatkan nama yang Anda sukai!
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http://mail. promotions. yahoo.com/ newdomains/ id/

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Nama baru untuk Anda!
Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan di domain baru @ymail dan @rocketmail.
Cepat sebelum diambil orang lain!
http://mail. promotions. yahoo.com/ newdomains/ id/

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[forum-pajak] SPT Pribadi

regards,

-----Original Message-----
From: "Vivi" <viani_w@yahoo.com.sg>

Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 02:27:01
To: Forum Pajak<forum-pajak@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [SPAM][forum-pajak] SPT Pribadi


Ini berlaku sejak tahun ke 0 atau sejak thn ke 1-ke 2?
Thanks
regards,

-----Original Message-----
From: "Rachmat Widjaja" <rachmat-w@centrin.net.id>

Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 16:49:38
To: <forum-pajak@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [SPAM][forum-pajak] SPT Pribadi


Dear all,

Jangan semua harta dimasukan ke dalam daftar harta tetapi disesuaikan dengan penghasilan yang dilaporkan.

Apabila ada harta yang tidak dilaporkan tetapi ketahui oleh pihak pajak, maka kita berikan penjelasan bagaimana harta tersebut diperoleh. Contoh warisan, pinjam nama dll.

Selama pihak pajak dapat menerima penjelasan maka kita bebas.

Regards,


----- Original Message -----
From: fatriex99
To: forum-pajak@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 2:35 PM
Subject: [SPAM][forum-pajak] SPT Pribadi


Buat rekan2 semua,

SPT Pribadi kalo yanga harta belum masuk gimana cara masukin lagi 'n
mesti harus disebut kapan perolehannya gak ya???? trus biar aman
dipermasalahkan asal usul harta gimana ya????

thanks,

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Re: [SPAM][forum-pajak] SPT Pribadi

Ini berlaku sejak tahun ke 0 atau sejak thn ke 1-ke 2?
Thanks
regards,

-----Original Message-----
From: "Rachmat Widjaja" <rachmat-w@centrin.net.id>

Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 16:49:38
To: <forum-pajak@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [SPAM][forum-pajak] SPT Pribadi


Dear all,

Jangan semua harta dimasukan ke dalam daftar harta tetapi disesuaikan dengan penghasilan yang dilaporkan.

Apabila ada harta yang tidak dilaporkan tetapi ketahui oleh pihak pajak, maka kita berikan penjelasan bagaimana harta tersebut diperoleh. Contoh warisan, pinjam nama dll.

Selama pihak pajak dapat menerima penjelasan maka kita bebas.

Regards,


----- Original Message -----
From: fatriex99
To: forum-pajak@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 2:35 PM
Subject: [SPAM][forum-pajak] SPT Pribadi


Buat rekan2 semua,

SPT Pribadi kalo yanga harta belum masuk gimana cara masukin lagi 'n
mesti harus disebut kapan perolehannya gak ya???? trus biar aman
dipermasalahkan asal usul harta gimana ya????

thanks,

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Bls: [forum-pajak] Saat Membuat FP standar

PER 159 tentang pembuatan faktur pajak standar

----- Pesan Asli ----
Dari: Nancy <nancy@lem-fox.com>
Kepada: forum-pajak@yahoogroups.com
Terkirim: Kamis, 18 September, 2008 13:49:45
Topik: RE: [forum-pajak] Saat Membuat FP standar


Saat pembuatan F pajak dpt dibuat plg lama 1 bulan sejak saat terjadinya
transaksi atau sebelum diterima pembayaran, kalo saran saya sih dibuat tgl 1
bl berikut aja mending mundur krn ada peraturan yg memperbolehkan drpd maju.

-----Original Message-----
From: forum-pajak@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:forum-pajak@ yahoogroups. com] On
Behalf Of lutfan maxalmina
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 10:52 AM
To: forum-pajak@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [forum-pajak] Saat Membuat FP standar

adminnya libur, jadi boleh buat invoice tgl 1, apa tidak salah dlam
nerbitinFaktur pajaknya?

--- Pada Rab, 17/9/08, joko baskoro <baskoro_9979@
<mailto:baskoro_ 9979%40yahoo. com> yahoo.com> menulis:

Dari: joko baskoro <baskoro_9979@ <mailto:baskoro_ 9979%40yahoo. com>
yahoo.com>
Topik: Re: [forum-pajak] Saat Membuat FP standar
Kepada: forum-pajak@ <mailto:forum- pajak%40yahoogro ups.com> yahoogroups. com
Tanggal: Rabu, 17 September, 2008, 8:46 PM

Kantornya libur ga untuk adminnya?

Kalo libur ya di buat sehari sesudah atau sehari sebelum

--- On Wed, 9/17/08, lutfan maxalmina <lutfan1708@ yahoo. co.id> wrote:

From: lutfan maxalmina <lutfan1708@ yahoo. co.id>
Subject: [forum-pajak] Saat Membuat FP standar
To: forum-pajak@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, September 17, 2008, 9:09 AM

Bolehkah bila tgl 31 hari sabtu/minggu atau hari libur, faktur pajak dibuat
saat awal bulan selanjutnya?

____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
Dapatkan nama yang Anda sukai!
Sekarang Anda dapat memiliki email di @ymail.com dan @rocketmail. com.
http://mail. promotions. yahoo.com/ newdomains/ id/

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
Nama baru untuk Anda!
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@rocketmail.
Cepat sebelum diambil orang lain!
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promotions.yahoo. com/newdomains/ id/

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[forum-pajak] PPh 21 Running system

saat ini saya masih bingung cara perhitungan pph 21 secara running
system. perhitungan ini diperlukan karena pph 21 tahunan bakalan
dihapus, sehingga wp tidak diperkenankan kekurangan bayar. mohon
bantuan penjelasannya dari rekan2 semua. kalau ada programnya (bentuk
excell) saya mohon dapat dilampirkan. atas bantuannya diucapkan terima
kasih


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Re: [forum-pajak] Hapus data espt PPN 1107

Dear all,

Menurut sy kasus regina adalah Faktur Pajak Batal, sehingga untuk atas FP
yang lama tidak bisa dihapus begitu saja, caranya sudah benar yg dibilang
oleh persya white tapi pas di point 5 jgn dihapus, kita panggil no FPnya
lalu ubah kodenya dari 1 jadi 6 ( 6= FP batal ), hanya berpendapat.

Regards,
Melky

2008/9/19 Persya White <persya_cute@yahoo.com>

> Dear Regina,
> Regina, coba deh cara ini:
> 1. buka program eSPT PPN
> 2. di kiri atas ada tulisan "program" kamu klik itu, trs klik setting SPT
> 1107
> 3. lalu kamu masukin masa pajaknya, pembetulan 1
> 4. nanti akan ditanya: "melakukan revisi/edit" atau "buat pembetulan (N+1)"
> nah kamu pilih yang "buat pembetulan (N+1)".
> 5. baru buka input data --> pajak masukan --> masa pajak: april/pembetulan
> 2 --> tampilkan data --> lalu hapus klik FP yang mau kamu hapus, trs hapus
> deh
> 6. setelah itu kamu posting SPT-nya. nah selesai.
> Gud luck yah regina.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Ervina, SE
> Corporate Tax Executive Supervisor
> PT. Sahabat Utama TraCo
> Jakarta Barat
> HP. 021-91369080
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Regina <regina@poc.co.id <regina%40poc.co.id>>
> To: forum-pajak@yahoogroups.com <forum-pajak%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 10:50:40 AM
> Subject: [forum-pajak] Hapus data espt PPN 1107
>
> Rekan forum pajak,
>
> Saya mo minta tolong soal espt PPN 1107.
> Ada supplier kami yang baru memberitahu bahwa Faktur Pajak yang mereka
> kirimkan kepada kami yang tertanggal 16 April 2008 ternyata telah mereka
> ganti sejak awal Mei menjadi 5 Mei 2008 dengan nomor yang baru. Informasi
> ini baru saya dapatkan bulan Agustus 2008.
> Di FP baru tidak ada tulisan "Faktur Pajak Pengganti" karena menurut mereka
> FP di bulan April tidak mereka laporkan dan nomor invoicepun semua berubah.
> Pembetulan yang akan saya lakukan adalah Pembetulan ke 2.
>
> Bagaimana cara menghapus nomor FP tersebut di espt pembetulan ?
> Saya sudah coba hapus melalui : Input Data \ Pajak Masukan \ Masa Pajak :
> April 2008 - 1, tapi setiap kali konfirmasi "Apakah Data Akan Dihapus"
> diklik Ya, hasilnya selalu keluar :
> Data Berhasil Dihapus : 0
> Data Gagal Dihapus : 1
> Keterangan :
> 1. Data Gagal Dihapus Karena Nomor Seri Tersebut Sudah Dipakai untuk Faktur
> Pajak Pengganti : 0
> 2. Data Gagal Dihapus Karena Nomor Seri Tersebut Sudah Dilaporkan Pada
> Pembetulan Sebelumnya : 1
>
> Mohon bantuannya.
>
> Terima kasih.
> Regina
>
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>
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>
>
>


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Re: [forum-pajak] Hapus data espt PPN 1107

Dear Regina,
Regina, coba deh cara ini:
1. buka program eSPT PPN
2. di kiri atas ada tulisan "program" kamu klik itu, trs klik setting SPT 1107
3. lalu kamu masukin masa pajaknya, pembetulan 1
4. nanti akan ditanya: "melakukan revisi/edit" atau "buat pembetulan (N+1)" nah kamu pilih yang "buat pembetulan (N+1)".
5. baru buka input data --> pajak masukan --> masa pajak: april/pembetulan 2 --> tampilkan data --> lalu hapus klik FP yang mau kamu hapus, trs hapus deh
6. setelah itu kamu posting SPT-nya. nah selesai.
Gud luck yah regina.

Best regards,


Ervina, SE
Corporate Tax Executive Supervisor
PT. Sahabat Utama TraCo
Jakarta Barat
HP. 021-91369080


----- Original Message ----
From: Regina <regina@poc.co.id>
To: forum-pajak@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 10:50:40 AM
Subject: [forum-pajak] Hapus data espt PPN 1107


Rekan forum pajak,

Saya mo minta tolong soal espt PPN 1107.
Ada supplier kami yang baru memberitahu bahwa Faktur Pajak yang mereka kirimkan kepada kami yang tertanggal 16 April 2008 ternyata telah mereka ganti sejak awal Mei menjadi 5 Mei 2008 dengan nomor yang baru. Informasi ini baru saya dapatkan bulan Agustus 2008.
Di FP baru tidak ada tulisan "Faktur Pajak Pengganti" karena menurut mereka FP di bulan April tidak mereka laporkan dan nomor invoicepun semua berubah.
Pembetulan yang akan saya lakukan adalah Pembetulan ke 2.

Bagaimana cara menghapus nomor FP tersebut di espt pembetulan ?
Saya sudah coba hapus melalui : Input Data \ Pajak Masukan \ Masa Pajak : April 2008 - 1, tapi setiap kali konfirmasi "Apakah Data Akan Dihapus" diklik Ya, hasilnya selalu keluar :
Data Berhasil Dihapus : 0
Data Gagal Dihapus : 1
Keterangan :
1. Data Gagal Dihapus Karena Nomor Seri Tersebut Sudah Dipakai untuk Faktur Pajak Pengganti : 0
2. Data Gagal Dihapus Karena Nomor Seri Tersebut Sudah Dilaporkan Pada Pembetulan Sebelumnya : 1

Mohon bantuannya.

Terima kasih.
Regina

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Re: [taxchat] Delinquency penalty / please help

Cris, sounds like they have smacked him with the substantial understatement penalty and that penalty is 20%...Stiff penalty, he needs reasonable cause to get out of it...It does not sound like he has one...

2008/9/18 Cris Kelly <ckelship@yahoo.com>

Hi

 

I have a client that under-reported income in both 04 & 05.  The 04 amount not reported was large over $135,000 and the amount for 05 was under $20,000.

 

The situation is that he had a bookkeeper (not an EA or CPA) doing his books and preparing his tax returns.  He never checked up on things and he signed whatever the bookkeeper told him to.

 

The amounts were put into the company, they were posted as owner investment instead of income. 

 

The amount of penalty is almost $20,000 and they are charging him interest over $17,000.

 

 

Does anyone think that I have any hope in getting the numbers reduced?  While the errors were technically his fault and all he can say is that he was stupid, but he is trying to fix things. 

 

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

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Thanks,

 

Cris

 


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Bls: [forum-pajak] Saat Membuat FP standar

setahu saya faktur pajak dapat dibuat dalam jangka waktu paling lambat satu bulan setelah diterbitkannya invoice.

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adminnya libur, jadi boleh buat invoice tgl 1, apa tidak salah dlam nerbitinFaktur pajaknya?

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Kantornya libur ga untuk adminnya?

Kalo libur ya di buat sehari sesudah atau sehari sebelum

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Subject: [forum-pajak] Saat Membuat FP standar
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Bolehkah bila tgl 31 hari sabtu/minggu atau hari libur, faktur pajak dibuat saat awal bulan selanjutnya?

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Re: [taxchat] POA authorized acts

Then using the POA is your option. The dumb thing is that you can fax the POA in so they have a copy instead of an original.

On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 3:41 PM, Donna J. Perrone <donnaperrone@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

I can't efile this one...it has to be mailed in.
 
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From: taxchat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:taxchat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Lukey
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 5:45 PM

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Subject: Re: [taxchat] POA authorized acts

If you arre E-filing your client's return the IRS doesn't care if the signature page is faxed to you. I have my out of town clients fax me the form and mail me the original, but having them do so isn't required.

On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 10:21 AM, Donna J. Perrone <donnaperrone@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Form 2848, POA, line 5, Acts authorized, allows a taxpayer to permit another person to sign a return for them under specific circumstances.  Ordinarily, I would never consider this, but my client is out of the country and the IRS requires an original signature, rather than a fascimile.
 
Once they sign the 2848, does anybody know how I should sign the return?  Would just my signature with "POA" after it suffice?
 
Donna
 
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RE: [taxchat] POA authorized acts

I can't efile this one...it has to be mailed in.
 
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Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 5:45 PM
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Subject: Re: [taxchat] POA authorized acts

If you arre E-filing your client's return the IRS doesn't care if the signature page is faxed to you. I have my out of town clients fax me the form and mail me the original, but having them do so isn't required.

On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 10:21 AM, Donna J. Perrone <donnaperrone@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Form 2848, POA, line 5, Acts authorized, allows a taxpayer to permit another person to sign a return for them under specific circumstances.  Ordinarily, I would never consider this, but my client is out of the country and the IRS requires an original signature, rather than a fascimile.
 
Once they sign the 2848, does anybody know how I should sign the return?  Would just my signature with "POA" after it suffice?
 
Donna
 
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[taxchat] Delinquency penalty / please help

Hi

 

I have a client that under-reported income in both 04 & 05.  The 04 amount not reported was large over $135,000 and the amount for 05 was under $20,000.

 

The situation is that he had a bookkeeper (not an EA or CPA) doing his books and preparing his tax returns.  He never checked up on things and he signed whatever the bookkeeper told him to.

 

The amounts were put into the company, they were posted as owner investment instead of income. 

 

The amount of penalty is almost $20,000 and they are charging him interest over $17,000.

 

 

Does anyone think that I have any hope in getting the numbers reduced?  While the errors were technically his fault and all he can say is that he was stupid, but he is trying to fix things. 

 

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

 

Thanks,

 

Cris

 

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RE: [taxchat] test

Yes, Yahoo does that -- if it bounces for any reason at all, particularly a
few times, then Yahoo automatically changes your status in there. That
would be the only way your profile could get changed without you having
changed it.

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Sometimes, for whatever reason, messages get bounced. usually a
temporary thing on your ISP, but yahoo is sending so many messages that
if they get just a few from your address, they automatically switch you
to 'no mail'. I say this like someone does this with some thought, but
I expect it's completely within a computer.

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Arlington, VA

Thomas Miller wrote:
> My point is that my profile changed, without me doing the changing.
> Computer glitch? Software glitch? Who knows? And I am not sure if the
> "why" matters.
>
> The point is the change in profile was the cause of no email. I
> corrected the profile and problem solved.
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Re: [taxchat] POA authorized acts

If you arre E-filing your client's return the IRS doesn't care if the signature page is faxed to you. I have my out of town clients fax me the form and mail me the original, but having them do so isn't required.

On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 10:21 AM, Donna J. Perrone <donnaperrone@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Form 2848, POA, line 5, Acts authorized, allows a taxpayer to permit another person to sign a return for them under specific circumstances.  Ordinarily, I would never consider this, but my client is out of the country and the IRS requires an original signature, rather than a fascimile.
 
Once they sign the 2848, does anybody know how I should sign the return?  Would just my signature with "POA" after it suffice?
 
Donna
 
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Re: [taxchat] test

Sometimes, for whatever reason, messages get bounced. usually a
temporary thing on your ISP, but yahoo is sending so many messages that
if they get just a few from your address, they automatically switch you
to 'no mail'. I say this like someone does this with some thought, but
I expect it's completely within a computer.

Ann Von Hagel, EA
Arlington, VA

Thomas Miller wrote:
> My point is that my profile changed, without me doing the changing.
> Computer glitch? Software glitch? Who knows? And I am not sure if the
> "why" matters.
>
> The point is the change in profile was the cause of no email. I
> corrected the profile and problem solved.
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My point is that my profile changed, without me doing the changing. Computer glitch? Software glitch? Who knows? And I am not sure if the "why" matters.
 
The point is the change in profile was the cause of no email. I corrected the profile and problem solved.

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Thomas Miller,
 
    I don't get your point!!
 
 
 
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I had this happen recently, and I don't remember what caught my eye on the screen, but.....
 
I went into the group web site and checked my profile - it had been changed, how or why I have no idea, but I reviewed the settings, and the email address(es) on file and which one to be used. That ended the problem.
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Re: [taxchat] Love offerings

My understanding is that if the 501(c)(3) assumes the authority over the disposition of the gift then the gift is tax deductible. The donor is allowed to express a preference. However, if the gift has restricted use controlled by the donor and it is a "love offering" directed toward an individual then it ceases to be deductible.
 
Most churches (I hope) organize their financial controls such that the tax deductibility of the gift is maintained. Unless the amount is astronomical (in which case I'd inquire - and there must be a receipt from the organization to document the terms of the gift) or I had reason to believe the gift contained restrictions, I would deduct it.

On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 9:23 AM, Terri Ryman <tryman@elkhart.com> wrote:

I've never seen a love offering given to anyone but the pastor or the associate pastor.  So they are never deductible for the giver.
 
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Subject: [taxchat] Love offerings

Please tell me more about this. I've seen love offerings on several client's statements from their various churches. They have not noted on the document that these were for a specific circumstance so I've been taking the deduction. If a love offering isn't noted as to being for a specific individual are they still not deductible?

On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 8:20 AM, Chuck Warman <cpwcpa@wf.net> wrote:

IRS doesn't necessarily consider it a gift, but a nondeductible contribution.  There's a difference.  For example, when a church takes up a "love offering" (or something similar), for a speaker or performer, the donations are nondeductible to the donors but taxable payment for services to the recipient.

 

The whole area of designated contributions is a minefield, full of contradictory rulings and case law.  Hammar's Church and Clergy Tax Guide devotes about 15 pages to this issue alone.  It's a great insomnia cure.

 

Chuck

 

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Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 10:25 PM
To: taxchat@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [taxchat] Restricted donations

 

Please explain. How can a gift be income to the recipient?

 


From: taxchat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:taxchat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Warman
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 11:12 PM
To: taxchat@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [taxchat] Restricted donations

It's a gift to the donor, but very possibly taxable income to the recipient.
This is not a good way to go.

Chuck

Terri Ryman writes:

> That is my understanding...if the donor specifies specific use, then it is a gift, not a donation.
>
> Terri L. Ryman, EA
> SOUTHWEST TAX & ACCOUNTING
> 503 Morton, Box 1367
> Elkhart, KS 67950-1367
>
> 620.697.2422 Phone
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> 620.697.4757 Fax
>
> tryman@elkhart.com
>
>
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> To: taxchat@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 8:25 AM
> Subject: [taxchat] Restricted donations
>
>
> If someone donates to a 501(c)(3) charitable organization and specifies
> that the donation is to be used for an individual, would that be a tax
> deductible charitable contribution for the donor? A taxpayer donated $
> to a choir to be used to offset expenses for one of the girls in the
> choir and specified that it be used for that one girl. The choir wrote
> a receipt that said it was not tax-deductible.
>
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RE: [taxchat] POA authorized acts

That's what I thought, but wanted confirmation.
Thanks, Lynne!
 
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From: taxchat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:taxchat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Lynne Ayton
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 1:42 PM
To: taxchat@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [taxchat] POA authorized acts

i would think it would be just like any other POA you would sign; your sig with POA after it, & attached the 2848 to the return.
lynne


Donna J. Perrone wrote:

Form 2848, POA, line 5, Acts authorized, allows a taxpayer to permit another person to sign a return for them under specific circumstances.  Ordinarily, I would never consider this, but my client is out of the country and the IRS requires an original signature, rather than a fascimile.
 
Once they sign the 2848, does anybody know how I should sign the return?  Would just my signature with "POA" after it suffice?
 
Donna
 
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Re: [taxchat] POA authorized acts

i would think it would be just like any other POA you would sign; your sig with POA after it, & attached the 2848 to the return.
lynne


Donna J. Perrone wrote:

Form 2848, POA, line 5, Acts authorized, allows a taxpayer to permit another person to sign a return for them under specific circumstances.  Ordinarily, I would never consider this, but my client is out of the country and the IRS requires an original signature, rather than a fascimile.
 
Once they sign the 2848, does anybody know how I should sign the return?  Would just my signature with "POA" after it suffice?
 
Donna
 
Donna J. Perrone, EA
East Haven, CT
203-469-4939
203-468-2038 fax
 
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