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02 Desember 2008

[forum-pajak] Re: Pajak Keluaran jadi biaya pengurang

Ini benar tp coba bapak gabungkan dengan accounting nya (jurnal).

Contoh: Pajak Keluaran 100 Pajak Masukan 90 (Untuk menghitung PPN
tiap Bulan)
Jurnal nya akan spt ini:
PPN Keluaran 100
PPN Masukan 90
PPn Keluaran Bank/Cash 10

Kalo dibiayakan:
Biaya (Others Exp) 10
Bank 10

Contoh lain utk pengakuan sales :
A/R 99
Sales 90
VAT Out 9

kalo dibiayakan
A/R 99
Sales 90
Other Exp 9

dilaporan keuangan perusahaan akan rusak kl spt ini.

Rekon PPN Masukan n keluaran akan selalu gantung nilainya krn gak ada
net off...


Kecuali utk skp PPN, itupun hrs dilihat dl laporan keuangannya, apa
account PM atau PK ada yg gantung atau tdk, kl msh ada yg gantung lbh
baek dijurnal dalam account PPN masukan atau Kelauaran.

Inilah sebabnya Pajak keluaran tidak blh dijurnal sbg biaya, hanya
pajak masukan yg boleh dibiayakan sepanjang bkn PKP dan Non
deductable PPN..

--- In forum-pajak@yahoogroups.com, "Ardhi DJ" <akuntan@...> wrote:
>
> Bagaimana kalau balik lagi ke UU PPh khususnya Pasal 6 dan Pasal 9
> disebutkan bahwa pajak bisa menjadi biaya kecuali: PPh dan Sanksi
Pajak
>
> Jadi sepanjang tidak ada larangan, berarti diperbolehkan (positive
list)
>
> <> Pasal 6:
> 1) Besarnya Penghasilan Kena Pajak bagi Wajib Pajak dalam negeri dan
> bentuk usaha tetap, ditentukan berdasarkan penghasilan bruto
dikurangi :
>
> a. biaya untuk mendapatkan, menagih, dan memelihara penghasilan,
> termasuk biaya pembelian bahan, biaya berkenaan dengan pekerjaan
> atau jasa termasuk upah, gaji, honorarium, bonus, gratifikasi, dan
> tunjangan yang diberikan dalam bentuk uang, bunga, sewa, royalti,
> biaya perjalanan, biaya pengolahan limbah, premi asuransi, biaya
> administrasi, dan pajak kecuali Pajak Penghasilan;
>
>
> <> Pasal 9
> (1) Untuk menentukan besarnya Penghasilan Kena Pajak bagi Wajib
Pajak
> dalam negeri dan bentuk usaha tetap tidak boleh dikurangkan:
>
> h. Pajak Penghasilan;
> k. sanksi administrasi berupa bunga, denda, dan kenaikan serta
sanksi
> pidana berupa denda yang berkenaan dengan pelaksanaan
perundangundangan
> di bidang perpajakan.
>
> ----------
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: forum-pajak@yahoogroups.com [mailto:forum-
pajak@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of awaluddin_lim
> Sent: 28 Nopember 2008 21:35
> To: forum-pajak@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [forum-pajak] Pajak Keluaran jadi biaya pengurang
>
> Setahu saya tidak semua SKPKB PPN dapat dibiayakan begitu saja
> 1. Harus melihat PPN atas biaya apa yang dikoreksi, jika PPN yang
dikoreksi berasal dari biaya yang
> dapat dikurangkan dari penghasilan bruto ya boleh dibiayakan.
> 2. Harus melihat kapan PPN itu dikoreksi SKPKB PPN tahun 2007 tidak
dapat dibiayakan di 2008
>
> Kalau PPN Keluaran itu setahu saya harus disetor ke Kas Negara dan
naturenya bukan merupakan biaya.
> boleh minta perarturan mengenai hal itu lumayan buat menambah
wawasan
>
> Pendapat lain silahkan.
>
> Awal
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Hendro Setiawan
> To: forum-pajak@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 6:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [forum-pajak] Pajak Keluaran jadi biaya pengurang
>
>
> Pengalaman saya sih bisa pak awal, karena kemarin klien saya
nerima SKPKB karena kurang pungut PPN
> Keluaran dan terhadap pembayaran SKPKB tersebut kami bebankan
sebagai biaya. Pihak fiskus hanya
> mengoreksi Sanksi Administrasinya saja karena argumen kami bahwa
PPN dan PPh itu berbeda, PPN adalah
> pajak atas suatu kegiatan atau kejadian, sedangkan PPh adalah pajak
atas suatu penghasilan. Kalo
> saya salah berpendapat mohon maaf.
>
> Hendro
>
> --- On Tue, 11/25/08, awaluddin_lim <awal_lim@...> wrote:
> From: awaluddin_lim <awal_lim@...>
> Subject: Re: [forum-pajak] Pajak Keluaran jadi biaya pengurang
> To: forum-pajak@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, November 25, 2008, 7:36 PM
>
> Menurut saya Seharusnya PPN keluaran yang membayar adalah klien
Bapak, tentunya jika PPN keluaran
> itu Bapak bayarkan bukan pengurang penghasilan bruto.
>
> Pendapat lain silahkan.
>
> Awal
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: adi jayadianto jaya
>
> To: forum-pajak@ yahoogroups. com
>
> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 11:57 PM
>
> Subject: [forum-pajak] Pajak Keluaran jadi biaya pengurang
>
> mau tanya perusahaan kami melakukan ekspor jasa, untuk itu
berdasarkan surat penegasan dikatakan
> ekspor jasa diperlakukan sama seperti pasal 4 huruf c uu PPN, yang
jadi masalah adalah apakah Pajak
> Keluaran yang kami bayarkan dapat dijadikan sebagai beban pengurang
penghasilan bruto dikategorikan
> sebagai biaya seperti pada Pasal 6 ayat (1) huruf a UU PPh.
>
> mohon bantuannya teman-teman sekalian
>

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Re: [forum-pajak] Pajak Iklan

Dear Pak Rachmat,

Atas pertanyaan Bapak, saya mengasumsikan jika perusahaan Bapak langsung menghubungi kompas untuk menerbitkan iklan tanpa melalui agen, maka atas transaksi ini dipotong PPH 23 sebesar 1.5% atas jasa pemanfaatan media, ruang dan waktu untuk penyampaian informasi.

Regards,
Novi

--- On Tue, 12/2/08, Rachmat Widjaja <rachmat-w@centrin.net.id> wrote:
From: Rachmat Widjaja <rachmat-w@centrin.net.id>
Subject: [forum-pajak] Pajak Iklan
To: forum-pajak@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 2:02 AM



Rekan-Rekan

Apakah pasang iklan di kompas,harus dipotong pph pasal 23 ?

Rachmat

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[forum-pajak] Fwd: Pokok2 Perubahan UU PPH 2008 (English version)

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Yuko Syahputra <kinclong.20e@gmail.com>
Date: 2008/12/3
Subject: Pokok2 Perubahan UU PPH 2008 (English version)
To: forum-pajak@yahoogroups.com


Dear all,

Mungkin udh prnh ada di milist tp terlewatkan oleh saya.
Sesuai subject di atas,kira2 ada yg punya ga ya???
Klo ada tolong di attach lg di milist ya...

Thanks & Regards,
Yuko Syahputra


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RE: [forum-pajak] Pajak Keluaran jadi biaya pengurang

Bagaimana kalau balik lagi ke UU PPh khususnya Pasal 6 dan Pasal 9
disebutkan bahwa pajak bisa menjadi biaya kecuali: PPh dan Sanksi Pajak

Jadi sepanjang tidak ada larangan, berarti diperbolehkan (positive list)

<> Pasal 6:
1) Besarnya Penghasilan Kena Pajak bagi Wajib Pajak dalam negeri dan
bentuk usaha tetap, ditentukan berdasarkan penghasilan bruto dikurangi :

a. biaya untuk mendapatkan, menagih, dan memelihara penghasilan,
termasuk biaya pembelian bahan, biaya berkenaan dengan pekerjaan
atau jasa termasuk upah, gaji, honorarium, bonus, gratifikasi, dan
tunjangan yang diberikan dalam bentuk uang, bunga, sewa, royalti,
biaya perjalanan, biaya pengolahan limbah, premi asuransi, biaya
administrasi, dan pajak kecuali Pajak Penghasilan;


<> Pasal 9
(1) Untuk menentukan besarnya Penghasilan Kena Pajak bagi Wajib Pajak
dalam negeri dan bentuk usaha tetap tidak boleh dikurangkan:

h. Pajak Penghasilan;
k. sanksi administrasi berupa bunga, denda, dan kenaikan serta sanksi
pidana berupa denda yang berkenaan dengan pelaksanaan perundangundangan
di bidang perpajakan.

----------

-----Original Message-----
From: forum-pajak@yahoogroups.com [mailto:forum-pajak@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of awaluddin_lim
Sent: 28 Nopember 2008 21:35
To: forum-pajak@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [forum-pajak] Pajak Keluaran jadi biaya pengurang

Setahu saya tidak semua SKPKB PPN dapat dibiayakan begitu saja
1. Harus melihat PPN atas biaya apa yang dikoreksi, jika PPN yang dikoreksi berasal dari biaya yang
dapat dikurangkan dari penghasilan bruto ya boleh dibiayakan.
2. Harus melihat kapan PPN itu dikoreksi SKPKB PPN tahun 2007 tidak dapat dibiayakan di 2008

Kalau PPN Keluaran itu setahu saya harus disetor ke Kas Negara dan naturenya bukan merupakan biaya.
boleh minta perarturan mengenai hal itu lumayan buat menambah wawasan

Pendapat lain silahkan.

Awal


----- Original Message -----
From: Hendro Setiawan
To: forum-pajak@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 6:46 PM
Subject: Re: [forum-pajak] Pajak Keluaran jadi biaya pengurang


Pengalaman saya sih bisa pak awal, karena kemarin klien saya nerima SKPKB karena kurang pungut PPN
Keluaran dan terhadap pembayaran SKPKB tersebut kami bebankan sebagai biaya. Pihak fiskus hanya
mengoreksi Sanksi Administrasinya saja karena argumen kami bahwa PPN dan PPh itu berbeda, PPN adalah
pajak atas suatu kegiatan atau kejadian, sedangkan PPh adalah pajak atas suatu penghasilan. Kalo
saya salah berpendapat mohon maaf.

Hendro

--- On Tue, 11/25/08, awaluddin_lim <awal_lim@cbn.net.id> wrote:
From: awaluddin_lim <awal_lim@cbn.net.id>
Subject: Re: [forum-pajak] Pajak Keluaran jadi biaya pengurang
To: forum-pajak@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, November 25, 2008, 7:36 PM

Menurut saya Seharusnya PPN keluaran yang membayar adalah klien Bapak, tentunya jika PPN keluaran
itu Bapak bayarkan bukan pengurang penghasilan bruto.

Pendapat lain silahkan.

Awal

----- Original Message -----

From: adi jayadianto jaya

To: forum-pajak@ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 11:57 PM

Subject: [forum-pajak] Pajak Keluaran jadi biaya pengurang

mau tanya perusahaan kami melakukan ekspor jasa, untuk itu berdasarkan surat penegasan dikatakan
ekspor jasa diperlakukan sama seperti pasal 4 huruf c uu PPN, yang jadi masalah adalah apakah Pajak
Keluaran yang kami bayarkan dapat dijadikan sebagai beban pengurang penghasilan bruto dikategorikan
sebagai biaya seperti pada Pasal 6 ayat (1) huruf a UU PPh.

mohon bantuannya teman-teman sekalian

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Bls: [forum-pajak] biaya Entertaian

    Dalam Surat Edaran Direktur Jenderal Pajak Nomor SE-27/PJ.22/1986 tanggal 14 Juni 1986 tentang BIAYA ENTERTAINment dan Sejenisnya, ditegaskan bahwa:
a.    BIAYA ENTERTAINment, representasi, jamuan dan sejenisnya untuk mendapatkan, menagih dan memelihara penghasilan pada dasarnya dapat dikurangkan dari penghasilan bruto sebagaimana dimaksud dalam Pasal 6 ayat (1) huruf a UU PPh;
b.    Wajib Pajak harus dapat membuktikan, bahwa biaya-biaya tersebut telah benar-benar dikeluarkan (formal) dan benar ada hubungannya dengan kegiatan perusahaan untuk mendapatkan, menagih dan memelihara penghasilan perusahaan (materiil);
c.    Wajib Pajak yang mengurangkan biaya-biaya tersebut dari penghasilan brutonya, agar melampirkan pada Surat Pemberitahuan Tahunan daftar nominatif atas biaya-biaya tersebut.

Semoga dapat membantu

Regards
RD

--- Pada Sel, 2/12/08, yenni_kho <yenni_kho@yahoo.co.id> menulis:
Dari: yenni_kho <yenni_kho@yahoo.co.id>
Topik: [forum-pajak] biaya Entertaian
Kepada: forum-pajak@yahoogroups.com
Tanggal: Selasa, 2 Desember, 2008, 8:30 PM



pagi........

mohon informasinya dong, peraturan tentang biaya entertain yang bisa

dijadikan sebagai pengurang... ...

tks & rgds,

yenni











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[forum-pajak] mohon masukan

minta masukan untuk topik skripsi ppn atau pph, kalo ngebahasa masalah
ppn tentang ruu yang baru atau pph tentang pph 21 untuk karyawan tidak
punya npwp bagus tidak yah?


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Bls: [forum-pajak] biaya Entertaian

 
Berikut saya ambil dari SE-27/PJ.22/1986 ttg Biaya Entertainment :
 
Berkenaan dengan banyaknya pertanyaan mengenai biaya "entertainment", representasi, jamuan tamu dan sejenisnya yang dapat dikurangkan dari penghasilan, dengan ini diberikan penjelasan sebagai berikut :
1. Biaya "entertainment", representasi, jamuan dan sejenisnya untuk mendapatkan, menagih dan memelihara penghasilan pada dasarnya dapat dikurangkan dari penghasilan bruto sebagaimana dimaksud dalam Pasal 6 ayat (1) huruf a UU Pajak Penghasilan 1984.
2. WP harus dapat membuktikan, bahwa biaya2 tersebut telah benar-benar dikeluarkan (formal) dan benar ada hubungannya dengan kegiatan perusahaan untuk mendapatkan, menagih dan memelihara penghasilan perusahaan (materiil).
3. Oleh karena itu, WP yang mengurangkan biaya-biaya tersebut dari penghasilan brutonya, sejak tahun pajak 1986 agar melampirkan pada SPT Tahunan daftar nominatif seperti terlampir yang berisi :
 a. Nomor urut.
 b. Tanggal "entertainment" dan sejenisnya yang telah diberikan.
 c. - Nama tempat "entertainment" dan sejenisnya yang telah diberikan.
  - Alamat "entertainment" dan sejenisnya yang telah diberikan.
  - Jenis "entertainment" dan sejenisnya yang telah diberikan.
  - Jumlah (Rp) "entertainment" dan sejenisnya yang telah diberikan.
 d. Relasi usaha yang diberikan "entertainment" dan sejenisnya sesuai dengan nomor urut
  tersebut di atas berisi :
  - Nama
  - Posisi
  - Nama perusahaan
  - Jenis usaha.
4. Apabila petugas pajak yang melakukan penelitian atau pemeriksaan terhadap Surat Pemberitahuan Tahunan tahun 1984 dan 1985 menemukan pos biaya "entertainment" dan sejenisnya, maka kepada Wajib Pajak seyogyanya dimintakan daftar nominatif seperti tersebut di atas untuk membuktikan, bahwa biaya-biaya tersebut benar-benar telah dikeluarkan dan benar ada hubungannya dengan kegiatan perusahaan untuk mendapatkan, menagih dan memelihara penghasilan perusahaan.
 
mudah2an membantu,
 
Hendra 
 

--- Pada Rab, 3/12/08, yenni_kho <yenni_kho@yahoo.co.id> menulis:

Dari: yenni_kho <yenni_kho@yahoo.co.id>
Topik: [forum-pajak] biaya Entertaian
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Tanggal: Rabu, 3 Desember, 2008, 8:30 AM


pagi........

mohon informasinya dong, peraturan tentang biaya entertain yang bisa
dijadikan sebagai pengurang... ...

tks & rgds,
yenni


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[forum-pajak] perhitungan PPh 21

Mas.....boleh minta file PPh 21nya gak????

Tx

ERZ

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Ada yang bisa bantu ga ya ???

Saya khan dapet file ini untuk menghitung PPh 21 di excell..

Tapi kok saya dah coba selalu error yaaa ?

ada yang bisa coba ada kesalahan di rumus yang mana ya ???

mohon bantuannya

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Re: [forum-pajak] HARTA YANG BELUM DICATAT DALAM SPT TAHUNAN

Bisa memanfaatkan sunset policy untuk pembetulan SPT Tahun 2002 s/d Tahun 2006.
Oleh karena memanfaatkan sunset policy maka pembetulan SPT harus kurang bayar, dimana utang pokoknya langsung disetorkan sedangkan semua sanksi pajak akan dibebaskan.

Oleh karena daftar akan link ke tahun 2007, maka SPT Tahun 2007 harus diperbaiki juga tapi tidak bisa memanfaatkan sunset.

Semoga membantu.

BR,

Gianto


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salam hormat para ahli pajak,

saya telah melaporkan spt tahunan pribadi sejak tahun 2000, ada harta yang
dibeli 2002 belum dicatat pada spt tahunan hingga 2007.Pertanyaan saya,
1. saya harus membetulkan spt 2002 dst atau pembetulan spt 2007 saja?
2. apakah termasuk program sunset atau hanya pembetulan spt?
3. kalau pembetulan spt, apakah terkena denda keterlambatan ?
terima kasih banyak atas pencerahannya.

salam,
chandra

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[forum-pajak] Pokok2 Perubahan UU PPH 2008 (English version)

Dear all,

Mungkin udh prnh ada di milist tp terlewatkan oleh saya.
Sesuai subject di atas,kira2 ada yg punya ga ya???
Klo ada tolong di attach lg di milist ya...

Thanks & Regards,
Yuko Syahputra


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Bls: [forum-pajak] HARTA YANG BELUM DICATAT DALAM SPT TAHUNAN

saya coba bantu jawab pertanyaan pak candra berdasarkan pengetahuan dari sosialisasi Sunset policy yang saya ikuti, dan kebetulan pertanyaan ini sama dng pertanyaan yang saya tanyakan kepada pak Darmin Nasution yang saat itu menjadi key note nya.

Pada inti nya Sunset Policy ini adalah penghapusan sanksi ( baik bunga maupun denda ) dari pembetulan SPT tahunan yang di betulkan untuk tahun 2006 dan sebelum nya. Nah penghapusan sanksi di sini di maksudkan adalah pembetulan yang di sampaikan harus nya terdapat penambahan penghasilan yang belum di laporkan sehingga menimbulkan pajak terhutang yang harus di setor. ( dimana bisa di ikuti dengan pembetulan penambahan harta )

Jadi dengan kata lain, apabila kita hanya membetulan SPT Tahunan hanya pada bangian Harta saja, itu bukan bagian dari Sunset Policy. Tetapi hal tersebut dapat dilakukan dengan pembetulan biasa. Mengenai pembetulan untuk tahun2 selanjut nya, saya sarankan di lakukan juga sehingga Daftar Harta pada SPT Tahunan nya menjadi berkesinambungan.

Satu hal yang perlu di ingat juga, apabila pembetulan ini bukan bagian dari Sunset Policy maka tidak ada jaminan bahwa perubahan data Pada SPT Tahunan ini tidak akan digunakan sebagai bahan untuk melakukan pemeriksaan WP. ( Krn hanya pada program Sunset saja Data / informasi dalam SPT Tahunan PPh tidak dapat di gunakan sebagai dasar pemeriksaan )

Demikian penjelasan dari saya, mungkin untuk para senior dapat mengkoreksi atau menambahkan bila ada kekurangan / kekeliruan.

Regards,
RD

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Topik: [forum-pajak] HARTA YANG BELUM DICATAT DALAM SPT TAHUNAN
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salam hormat para ahli pajak,

saya telah melaporkan spt tahunan pribadi sejak tahun 2000, ada harta yang

dibeli 2002 belum dicatat pada spt tahunan hingga 2007.Pertanyaan saya,

1. saya harus membetulkan spt 2002 dst atau pembetulan spt 2007 saja?

2. apakah termasuk program sunset atau hanya pembetulan spt?

3. kalau pembetulan spt, apakah terkena denda keterlambatan ?

terima kasih banyak atas pencerahannya.

salam,

chandra











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[forum-pajak] biaya Entertaian

pagi........

mohon informasinya dong, peraturan tentang biaya entertain yang bisa
dijadikan sebagai pengurang......


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RE: [taxchat] Corporation "Suspended

Sorry I wasn’t clear / but you helped.

 

Thanks a lot

 

Cris

 

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Cris,

 

The suspended notification is probably from the state rather than the IRS.  In our state if a corporation does not file its annual registration renewal for 3 years the Secretary of State will inactivate the corporation, but it can be reactivated by simply filing a form and paying $25.  You might have a similar situation in your state.

 

The IRS requires a return to be filed for any year where there is corporate activity or assets.

 

I don’t know what you mean by your question involving 04, 05, and 06.  Are you asking whether you need to determine your client’s filing status, eg., single, MFJ, etc.?

John Stevens, EA
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www.equitax.net

 


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This is a first for me; I have a new client that dropped all her paperwork, and included in the mess was a report that stated the status of the corp is “Suspended” as of 10.31.08.

 

Do I still file the 1120 in this situation?

 

Also we are preparing back taxes 04,05,06 – do I need to find out what her status was for those years?

 

I am totally at a lost for this one.

 

Thanks,

 

cris

 

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Re: [taxchat] Corporation "Suspended

Was that a statement from the state?  When NC suspends a corp all you have to do is pay the back franchise fees and tax.
 
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Subject: [taxchat] Corporation "Suspended

 

 

This is a first for me; I have a new client that dropped all her paperwork, and included in the mess was a report that stated the status of the corp is "Suspended" as of 10.31.08.

 

Do I still file the 1120 in this situation?

 

Also we are preparing back taxes 04,05,06 – do I need to find out what her status was for those years?

 

I am totally at a lost for this one.

 

Thanks,

 

cris


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RE: [taxchat] Corporation "Suspended

Cris,

 

The suspended notification is probably from the state rather than the IRS.  In our state if a corporation does not file its annual registration renewal for 3 years the Secretary of State will inactivate the corporation, but it can be reactivated by simply filing a form and paying $25.  You might have a similar situation in your state.

 

The IRS requires a return to be filed for any year where there is corporate activity or assets.

 

I don’t know what you mean by your question involving 04, 05, and 06.  Are you asking whether you need to determine your client’s filing status, eg., single, MFJ, etc.?

John Stevens, EA
Stevens Tax & Accounting, Inc., dba Equi-Tax
1870 - 50th St. E., Suite 8
Inver Grove Heights, MN 55077
651-773-5000
FAX 651-457-4529
equitax@unique-software.com
www.equitax.net

 


From: taxchat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:taxchat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Cris Kelly
Sent: 12/02/2008 5:02 PM
To: taxchat@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [taxchat] Corporation "Suspended

 

 

 

This is a first for me; I have a new client that dropped all her paperwork, and included in the mess was a report that stated the status of the corp is “Suspended” as of 10.31.08.

 

Do I still file the 1120 in this situation?

 

Also we are preparing back taxes 04,05,06 – do I need to find out what her status was for those years?

 

I am totally at a lost for this one.

 

Thanks,

 

cris

 

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Re: [taxchat] Corporation "Suspended

Cris,
 
Who is the "report" from, what are the dates, etc????
 
 
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Subject: [taxchat] Corporation "Suspended

This is a first for me; I have a new client that dropped all her paperwork, and included in the mess was a report that stated the status of the corp is "Suspended" as of 10.31.08.

Do I still file the 1120 in this situation?

Also we are preparing back taxes 04,05,06 – do I need to find out what her status was for those years?

I am totally at a lost for this one.

Thanks,

cris


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[taxchat] Corporation "Suspended

 

 

This is a first for me; I have a new client that dropped all her paperwork, and included in the mess was a report that stated the status of the corp is “Suspended” as of 10.31.08.

 

Do I still file the 1120 in this situation?

 

Also we are preparing back taxes 04,05,06 – do I need to find out what her status was for those years?

 

I am totally at a lost for this one.

 

Thanks,

 

cris

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[taxchat] Backup from client

For corps that file their return accrual / do you guys require to see their list of year end receivables / payables to verify the amount on their statement is correct or do you just accept the balance sheet #?

 

Thanks for the help.

 

Cris

 

 

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RE: [taxchat] 7216

This is the link to Rev Proc 2008-35 where the IRS details the new requirements. As I understand it, you have to get written consent from the client before you do anything else. It also applies to situations where you might be using tax return information as part of a financial planning engagement or offering to sell securities or insurance. Frankly, I haven't seen a plain English version of this requirement and the Rev Proc is not very clear  to me in some respects.
 


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Subject: [taxchat] 7216

I have been reading that we have to have our clients sign a form allowing for disclousure of their tax information.  I offer bank products thru SBBT and they state that there will be 2 forms the clients must sign, one to release info to the banks and another for something else.
 
It almost sounded like we have to have ALL clients sign this new disclousure form, whether or not they use bank products. Plus, a copy of that signed document must be kept in our files, either stored electronically or on paper.
 
Has anybody read anything about this or know what they are talking about?
 
 
 
Donna J. Perrone, EA
East Haven, CT
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[taxchat] 7216

I have been reading that we have to have our clients sign a form allowing for disclousure of their tax information.  I offer bank products thru SBBT and they state that there will be 2 forms the clients must sign, one to release info to the banks and another for something else.
 
It almost sounded like we have to have ALL clients sign this new disclousure form, whether or not they use bank products. Plus, a copy of that signed document must be kept in our files, either stored electronically or on paper.
 
Has anybody read anything about this or know what they are talking about?
 
 
 
Donna J. Perrone, EA
East Haven, CT
203-469-4939
203-468-2038 fax
 
 

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[taxchat] CALIF FTB Mandatory e-Pay Information

FYI - Just received this email - for California Taxpayers
 
 
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Official communication from the State of California Franchise Tax Board

Date:

December 2, 2008

Subject:

Mandatory e-Pay Information

 

Some of your clients may be required to make their payments electronically (Mandatory e-pay)

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Re: [forum-pajak] Mohon petunjuk para ahli pajak ttg PPh saya...trim's u/Pak Awaludin Lim

Anda bisa cross cek ke buku petunjuk pengisian spt Orang pribadi :), penghasilan anda ini masuk kriteria penghasilan dari pekerjaan bebas.
----- Original Message -----
From: Budi Hartono
To: forum-pajak@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 10:53 PM
Subject: Re: [forum-pajak] Mohon petunjuk para ahli pajak ttg PPh saya...trim's u/Pak Awaludin Lim

Terima kasih Pak Awaludin Lim... nampaknya memang satu-satunya cara adalah membiarkan perusahaan memotong dan diperhitungkan kembali pada akhir tahun dengan memakai norma perhitungan..
Tapi menurut konsultan pajak di kantor pajak, hal itu tidak dimungkinkan, karena norma perhitungan hanya bisa dipakai apabila pajak disetor sendiri (tidak dipotong perusahaan). Tapi akan saya cross check lagi ke kantor pajak berdasarkan informasi dari Anda.

Status kerja saya sangat jelas tertulis dalam perjanjian kerja adalah bukan karyawan dan oleh sebab itu segala aturan dalam UU ketenagakerjaan tidak berlaku bagi saya dan perusahaan.

Terima kasih sekali lagi atas petunjuk Pak Awaludin Lim.

Salam,

Budi

--- Pada Jum, 28/11/08, awaluddin_lim <awal_lim@cbn.net.id> menulis:
Dari: awaluddin_lim <awal_lim@cbn.net.id>
Topik: Re: [forum-pajak] Mohon petunjuk para ahli pajak ttg PPh saya...trim's u/Pak Rudy
Kepada: forum-pajak@yahoogroups.com
Tanggal: Jumat, 28 November, 2008, 9:28 PM

Dear Pak Budi,
Pertama-tama dalam menentukan perhitungan pajak yang perlu di ketahui adalah
1. Status apakah merupakan karyawan atau non karyawan (ini bisa dilihat dari
kontrak perjanjian kerja/kerja sama). jika status karyawan tidak bisa memakai
norma perhitungan netto, jika status non karyawan bisa memakai norma, mungkin
ada kesalahan sewaktu mendaftar NPWP.
2. Pajak yang dipotong langsung oleh Perusahaan atas kedua status karyawan
maupun non karyawan sama-sama dapat dikreditkan (minta bukti potong pph pasal
21dari perusahaan)
3. Perhitungan komisi bisa bervariasi yang penting berapa komisi yang kita
terima (biasanya tercantum dibukti potong pph pasal 21 )

Pendapat lain silahkan
Awal

----- Original Message -----
From: Budi Hartono
To: forum-pajak@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 6:09 PM
Subject: [forum-pajak] Mohon petunjuk para ahli pajak ttg PPh
saya...trim's u/Pak Rudy

Terima kasih banyak atas tanggapan Pak Rudy.
Benar,Pak semacam Century 21.
Tapi berhubung masing-masing kantor broker mempunyai sistem dan kebijaksanaan
manajemen yang berbeda, mohon jangan jadikan acuan persis untuk menjadi
bandingan. Maksud saya, saya tidak tau, apakah masalah biaya pemasaran di kanor
broker lain juga ditanggung sebagian oleh marketingnya. Saya pernah mendengar
dari rean2 saya di kantor broker lain, yang biaya pemasarannya ditanggung oleh
perusahaan 100%, dan PPh juga ditanggung perusahaan, namun pembagian komisi
hasil penjualan juga bukan 50:50 seperti pembagian komisi di kantor saya. Tapi
porsi untuk perusahaan lebih besar.

Sebagai info tambahan,
- Saya telah mempunyai NPWP.
- Saya tidak menerima gaji atau pembayaran tetap apapun selain komisi sesuai
penjualan saya.

Saya memang menghendaki perhitungan dengan memakai norma perhitungan, tapi
norma tidak bisa berlaku, apabila phak perusahaan memotong langsung. Karena saya
dianggap orang perorang pegawai. (Ini kata konsultan pajak dari kantor pajak).
Sedangkan dari pihak manajemen perusahaan tidak setuju untuk tidak memotong
langsung PPh saya, karena bisa dianggap melanggar UU PPh.

Benar-benar bingung nih...

Terima kasih sekali lagi, Pak Rudy.

Budi.

--- Pada Rab, 26/11/08, Rudy <fw190@cbn.net.id> menulis:
Dari: Rudy <fw190@cbn.net.id>
Topik: RE: [forum-pajak] Mohon petunjuk para ahli pajak ttg PPh saya.
Kepada: forum-pajak@yahoogroups.com
Tanggal: Rabu, 26 November, 2008, 3:59 PM

Broker semacan Century 21 ya pak ?

Setahu saya potongan PPh 21 nya bukan final, dan dapat diperhitungkan
sebagai kredit pajak.
Kalau mau mengkurangkan biaya, setahu saya harus mengadakan pembukuan.
Daripada repot bikin pembukuan, mending pakai norma deh pak.

Rudy

-----Original Message-----
From: Budi Hartono [mailto:bvd11_hartono@yahoo.co.id]
Sent: 26 Nopember 2008 0:54
To: forum-pajak@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [forum-pajak] Mohon petunjuk para ahli pajak ttg PPh saya.

Saya bekerja di perusahaan broker property yang kebingungan tentang
pajak penghasilan yang seharusnya berlaku untuk saya.

Kondisi pekerjaan saya adalah:
1. Status saya bukan pegawai, tapi adalah mitra kerja (tertulis dalam
surat perjanjian kerja)
2. Saya ikut menanggung sebagian biaya pemasaran atas property yang saya
pasarkan, misalnya: biaya iklan koran, brosur selebaran, spanduk, dll.
3. Saya juga harus membayar biaya training dan semua biaya yang timbul
akibat training tersebut. Misalnya, saya harus training ke Jakarta
(sebagai syarat kenaikan peringkat), maka saya harus membayar biaya
training berikut tiket pesawat, hotel, penginapan dan makan. (Domisili
saya di luar jakarta.) Dengan catatan apabila saya berhasil mencapai
target tertentu dalam jangka waktu yang ditentukan, biaya trainingnya
jadi gratis. (Hanya biaya trainingnya lho...tidak termasuk biaya yang
ditimbulkan akibat training)

Pajak yang selama ini saya tanggung untuk setiap kali ada penjualan
property adalah pph pasal 21, yang bersifat final, tidak ada pengurangan
biaya dan PTKP.
Jadi berapapun komisi yang saya terima, langsung kena potong sesuai
tarif pajak yang berlaku sesuai UU no.17, pasal 17.

Pertanyaan saya adalah:
Apakah memang demikian perlakuan pajak terhadap profesi saya, tidak ada
pengurangan atas biaya-biaya yang ikut saya tanggung dalam proses
pemasaran tersebut, dan juga tidak ada pengurangan PTKP?

Saya merasa kok tidak adil ya? Bukannya dalam perhitungan pajak dalam
pembukuan yang saya pelajari di sekolah, seharusnya, (penghasilan kotor
- biaya) x tarif = pajak terutang? atau bahkan (penghasilan kotor -
biaya - PTKP) X tarif = pajak terutang?

Mohon petunjuk para ahli, dan sekaligus, mohon memberikan dasar
hukumnya.

Saya ucapkan terima kasih banyak sebelumnya.

Budi

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