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Re: Bls: [forum-pajak] tanya PPh 21

for this time,i agree with you mr.dhani,,,,
always keep learning...

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[forum-pajak] Perlakuan Pajak atas Lembaga Pendidikan Informal

adakah rekan2 disini yang tau ttg perlakuan pajak atas kegiatan yang
dilaksanakan oleh lembaga pendidikan informal sehubungan dengan
pemberian bantuan pembiayaan ? saya koq belum menemukan aturan nya?

apakah bisa di analogikan dengan BOS yang diberikan pemerintah kepada
pihak penyelenggara pendidikan formal?

mohon pencerahannya

trims dan salam
motomatic

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Re: [forum-pajak] tanya: yang termasuk jasa kebersihan dan tarifnya

Urun Rembug Ya
Kalo dikantorku jasa kebersihan yang dikenakan PPH Psl 23 sebesar 1,5% adalah

1.Jasa termite control atau anti rayap menggunakan produk lokal(safe1)dan produk luar(bayer),terima juga dalam jumlah masal!Bisa untuk gedung2perkantoran,hotel,rumah sakit dan juga perumahan.Baik yang sedang direncanakan untuk dibangun,yang sedang dalam proses pembangunan ataupun yang sudah dihuni.
2.Jasa pest control atau anti lalat,nyamuk,kecoa yang bisa digunakan di gedung2perkantoran,sekolah,hotel,rumah sakit,restoran dan lingkungan tempat tinggal.Menggunakan produk unggulan dari Bayer.
3.Jasa rodent atau anti tikus yang menggunakan sistem umpan dan sistem gel.Bisa diterapkan di kompleks perkantoran,perumahan bahkan gedung2mal,hotel dan rumah sakit.
4.Jasa fumigasi atau anti kutu dan kecoa.Bisa diterapkan di perpustakaan,dokumen dan arsip,gudang2,perkapalan atau bahkan ditempat pertambangan minyak.
5.Jasa cleaning service mencakup alat2dan juga pekerja janitor.

nah ini ada diarsip posting terdahulu dari raden suparman yang isinya

cleaning servise tentu berbeda dengan laundry. pembuat PER-70 juga pasti
sudah tahu dan kita tidak perlu menghubung-hubungkan karena kata-katanya
"bersaudara" yaitu "bersih2".

di PER ini justru penegasan untuk jasa kebersihan, yaitu cleaning service.
sebenarnya ada sebuah surat yang dibuat DJP yang menghubungkan jasa
kebersihan (masih ngacu ke KEP-172/PJ./2002) dengan jasa persiapan lahan.
dengan PER-70/PJ./2007 itu dipertegas bahwa jasa kebersihan itu cleaning
service dan kita maklum apa itu cleaning servise.

ada tanggapan lain dari temen temen

----- Original Message ----
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Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 09:24:34
Subject: [forum-pajak] tanya: yang termasuk jasa kebersihan dan tarifnya


Dear All,
 
Ada yang bisa bantu jenis-jenis jasa apa saja yang masuk kategori jasa kebersihan/cleaning service yang sesuai dengan PER 70/2007 kena PPh 1.5%???
 
Jasa laundry baju/hordeng/ selimut berapa % ?
Jasa membersihkan equipment/mesin di pabrik-pabrik berapa %?
Jasa cuci kendaraan berapa persen?
 
Terimakasih atas bantuannya.
 
regards,
 
nile

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Re: [forum-pajak] PPH 4.2 /23 dan SPT

Bung Ryoma dan pak hendra thanks atas jawabanya
bung ryoma untuk 3 & 4 bos ku mengunakan norma

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Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 08:18:27
Subject: Re: [forum-pajak] PPH 4.2 /23 dan SPT


1. Ya pak, dipotong sesuai PP 51/2008 (SE-05/PJ.03/ 2008), untuk kontrak yang ditandatangani setelah tanggal 1 januari 2008. Yang harus memotong adalah pemakai jasa jika WP Badan, tapi jika pemakai jasa adalah OP, dapat menjadi pemotong PPh Pasal 4 ayat 2 jika memiliki NPWP dan menyelenggarakan pembukuan atas usahanya. Jika hal tersebut tidak terpenuhi, maka PPh atas jasa konstruksi tsbt disetor sendiri oleh Pelaksana Konstruksi dalam hal ini bos anda.
 
2. Betul Pak, SPT 1770 digunakan oleh OP yang melakukan kegiatan usaha atau pekerjaan bebas.
 
3  & 4 . Betul pak, tapi saya masih agak rancu ini pak, Bosnya menyelenggarakan pembukuan ga pak, untuk jasa konstruksinya, kalau iya, berarti Form 1770-I hal 1 harus disi, dan kemudian akan terdapat koreksi fiskal negatif sehingga penghasilan dari usaha/pekerjaan bebasnya menjadi Rp 0,-
 
5. Yup, betul pak, boleh jadi kredit pajak jika dipotong berdasarkan Per-70/PJ./2006. Itu untuk kualifikasi omset 1 M keatas loh pak.

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From: Jhon Kho <jhonkhoferi@ yahoo.com. sg>
Subject: [forum-pajak] PPH 4.2 /23 dan SPT
To: "MODERATOR" <forum-pajak@ yahoogroups. com>
Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 11:51 AM

Dear Temen Temen,
Aku mau minta Saran dan Pendapat
CMIIW
Hari ini bos ku dapat job sampingan sebagai kontraktor untuk membangun masjid
dari wpop perseorangan. wpop tersebut tidak PKP dan bosku pun bukan PKP
atas transaksi tersebut apakah
1.si pemberi kerja harus memotong bosku sebesar 4% x DPP [sesuai SE-05/PJ.03/ 2008]
   atau bosku yang harus memotong dan melaporkan sendiri pada SPT Masa PPH Psl.4.ayat 2
   atas jasa konstruksi.
2.Apakah Bosku harus mengisi SPT 1770 karena sekarang dia mendapat penghasilan
   dari 2 pemberi kerja.
3.Jika melihat form SPT 1770 tahun 2007 bener tidak di form induk hanya diisi diangka 2 saja
   yaitu penghasilan bos yang dari pekerjaan dia sebagai Direktur keuangan.
4.karena atas penghasilan sampingan kontraktor telah dipotong PPH Final maka penghasilan tersebut
   dicatat di Form 1770-III No.10
5.Jika peraturan Per 51-2008 dan SE-05/PJ.03/ 2008 belum dikeluarkan dan Bos ku dikenakan
   PPH 23 sebesar 4.5% apakah ini dapat dijadikan kredit pajak kalo bosku mau mengunakan
   norma ?

atas tanggapannya saya ucapkan terimakasih, mudah mudahan bisa jadi contoh untuk kasus
sejenis

thanks
jhonkho
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[forum-pajak] Jual Beli Tanah dan atau Bangunan

Ada yang mau jual atau beli tanah dan atau bangunan, harus tahu dulu
hal-hal yang berikut ini :

Untuk Pembeli :

Baca Selengkapnya disini
<http://amanikirei.com/2008/09/11/jual-beli-tanah-dan-atau-bangunan/>


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[forum-pajak] Re: Pengkreditan Pajak Masukan

Horas Lai!

Dibaca dari kisahnya, Perusahaan Anda terbitkan faktur pajak bersifat
strategis bebas PPn dan menerima faktur pajak yang bersifat strategis
juga. Berarti dua-duanya gak bisa saling potong PPn.

Cuma faktur pajak standar saja yg boleh dikreditkan. sedangkan
penerimaan dengan stamp bebas PPn hanya boleh dimasukan sebagai biaya.

Kalo faktur pajak standar penerimaannya lebih banyak dari faktur pajak
keluarannya (faktur pjk bebas PPn) berarti akan terjadi lebih bayar.
Sarannya, coba diperhatikan lagi, apakah semua faktur pajak yang
diterbitkan dengan bebas PPn telah memenuhi syarat dalam peraturan
Menteri Keuangan No. 11/PMK.03/2007. Jangan-jangan ada barang bukan
strategis tapi di cap strategis?

Barang Kena Pajak Tertentu yang bersifat strategis adalah :

a. barang modal berupa mesin dan peralatan pabrik, baik dalam keadaan
terpasang maupun terlepas, tidak termasuk suku cadang;

b. makanan ternak, unggas dan ikan dan/atau bahan baku untuk pembuatan
makanan ternak, unggas dan ikan;

c. barang hasil pertanian;

d. bibit dan/atau benih dari barang pertanian, perkebunan, kehutanan,
peternakan, penangkaran, atau perikanan;

g. air bersih yang dialirkan melalui pipa oleh Perusahaan Air Minum; dan

h. listrik, kecuali untuk perumahan dengan daya di atas 6.600 (enam
ribu enam ratus) watt.

http://www.dannydarussalam.com/engine/peraturan/view.php?id=9191

kalo masih lebih bayar juga, bikin aja Vat in-nya expired, jadi cuma
bisa dianggap biaya.

Semoga bisa membantu Lai.

Deny Imanuel Sumakul
ara_sakul@yahoo.co.id

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> Malam ,
>
> Mohon pendapatnya & mudah2an berdasarkan pengalaman rekan2 dapat
membantu saya.
> Kami melakukan penjualan /penyerahan BKP strategis dimn atas
penyerahan nya Dibebaskan PPN nya dengan membubuhkan cap pada Faktur
Pajak Keluaran: PPN DIBEBASKAN sesuai PP no 12 tahun 2001.
> Yang menjadi pertanyaan : Apakah seluruh Faktur Pajak Masukan selama
tahun 2007 bisa dikreditkan (SPT Masa PPN tahun 2007)?
>
> Terimakasih,
>
> Ucok
>
>
>
>
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[forum-pajak] Tanya e-spt PPN

Dear all,

Mau tanya nih.. Saya ada mau buat pembetulan PPN, b4 mau dirubah menjadi
b1, tetapi pada saat mau hapus faktur pajak yang mau dirubah ternyata
tidak mau terhapus, hanya ada tulisan deleted. Sedangkan di induk daftar
yang telah terhapus tadi memang sudah tidak ada, tetapi amountnya masih
muncul. Mungkin ada yang pernah mengalami bisa bagi pengalamannya? Atau
ada yang bisa bantu?
Terima Kasih.

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Re: [forum-pajak] Pajak atas sewa gedung kantor

Setahu saya untuk hal tersebut tidak diperkenankan gross up, gross up hanya diperkenankan untuk PPh21 dan 26 saja.

Salam,

Adi
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 7:59 PM
Subject: Re: [forum-pajak] Pajak atas sewa gedung kantor


Salam kenal,
Oh iya mau tanya sekalian mengenai Gross Up di PPh ( terutama PPh Pasal 4 Ayat 2 Final dan PPh Pasal 23), Apakah Gross Up untuk PPh Pasal 23/PPh Pasal 4 Ayat (2) Final diperkenankan di pajak?, jika iya bagaimana perbedaan jumlah nilai antara di Invoice Supplier dengan pencatatan di pembukuan perusahaan kita,
Sebelumnya maaf kalau pertanyaan ini sudah pernah dibahas,
sekali lagi saya ucapkan terima kasih

--- On Thu, 24/7/08, Carolina MH <carolina_mhd@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Carolina MH <carolina_mhd@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [forum-pajak] Pajak atas sewa gedung kantor
To: forum-pajak@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, 24 July, 2008, 2:21 PM

Biaya sewa tsb digross up dulu.
Ct. Biaya sewa sebenarnya Rp 10jt, di gross up menjadi Rp 11.111.111,- Rp 10jt dibayarkan ke penyewa, Rp 1.111.111,- dibayarkan ke pajak. Total biaya sewa menjadi Rp 11.111.111,- dapat diakui sebagai biaya operasional.
Begitu saran saya.
Regards,
Carolina MH

----- Original Message ----
From: ismira06 <ismira06@yahoo. co.id>
To: forum-pajak@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 11:18:19 AM
Subject: [forum-pajak] Pajak atas sewa gedung kantor

Yth. teman2 ahli pajak mohon masukannya

apabila kantor saya menyewa sebuah gedung kantor tetapi Pemilik gedung
tidak mau dipotong PPh atas sewa tersebut. Apakah ada dampaknya jika
saya sebagai penyewa tidak memotong pajak atas sewa tersebut?
Jika Penyewa tetap tidak mau dipotong PPh atas sewa kemudian pihak
kami yang menanggung pajak tersebut, apakah bisa pajak yang kami
tanggung tersebut dijadikan biaya operasional?

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Re: [forum-pajak] ?anggota baru

Dilaporkan semuanya.Baik yg telah dilaporkan maupun yg baru dilaporkan, istilahnya dibuat ulang dengan data tambahan tersebut...SPT pembetulannya dilampiri dengan FC SSP dan FC SPT yang dibetulkan.

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From: idhast <idhast@yahoo.co.kr>
Subject: [forum-pajak] ?anggota baru
To: forum-pajak@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 9:33 PM


Berhubung saya masih baru n awam dengan yang namanya masalah pajak,
saya mau menanyakan bagaimana pembetulan SPT masa PPN
Jika pada dua bulan yang lalu ada FP yang belum dilaporkan?
apakah SPT pembetulannya cukup dengan mencantumkan No Faktur Pajak
yang belum dilaporkan atau dengan ikut menyertakan No Faktur Pajak
yang sudah dilaporkan.
terima kasih


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[forum-pajak] tanya: yang termasuk jasa kebersihan dan tarifnya

Dear All,
 
Ada yang bisa bantu jenis-jenis jasa apa saja yang masuk kategori jasa kebersihan/cleaning service yang sesuai dengan PER 70/2007 kena PPh 1.5%???
 
Jasa laundry baju/hordeng/selimut berapa % ?
Jasa membersihkan equipment/mesin di pabrik-pabrik berapa %?
Jasa cuci kendaraan berapa persen?
 
Terimakasih atas bantuannya.
 
regards,
 
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Re: [forum-pajak] Tatacara Pemebetulan SPT Masa PPN

ya betul pak Ryoma saya lupa kasus sudah
dilaporkan sebelumnya

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To: forum-pajak@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 2:19:44 PM
Subject: Re: [forum-pajak] Tatacara Pemebetulan SPT Masa PPN


Maaf pak Ridwan, coba untuk menambahkan. Coba bapak lihat Per-159/PJ./ 2006 Lampiran VIII huruf C, disana jelas2 diatur bahwa FP yg dibatalkan harus dilaporkan dengan mengisi kolom DPP dan kolom PPN pada Form SPT Masa PPN Lampiran A dengan angka Rp 0,- . Jadi jelas diatur bahwa No serinya FP yg dibatalkan tidak dapat digunakan untuk transaksi selanjutnya. Karena secara administrasi, setiap FP yang dibatalkan harus dilaporkan ke KPP melalui SPT Masa PPN, sehingga secara administrasi KPP, no FP tersebut telah dinyatakan batal transaksinya, sehingga tidak ada aturan secara perUUan,Perdirjen atau aturan lainnya yang memperbolehkan no seri FP yang dibatalkan untuk dapat digunakan kembali untuk transaksi selanjutnya atau yang lainnya. Ini secara aturan bukan secara logika.
Mungkin ada pendapat lain.

--- On Tue, 9/9/08, Ridwan Candra <r_candra12140@ yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Ridwan Candra <r_candra12140@ yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [forum-pajak] Tatacara Pemebetulan SPT Masa PPN
To: forum-pajak@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 9:55 PM

ya no seri yg dibatalkan dipakai kembali tapi utk
transaksi berikutnya bukan yg dibatalkan
(logikanya trasaksi batalkan mjd tdk ada
maka tidak perlu dilaporkan kembali)

----- Original Message ----

From: MDN - KURNIA <kurnia@simdn. co.id>
To: forum-pajak@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tuesday, September 9, 2008 11:39:38 AM
Subject: Re: [forum-pajak] Tatacara Pemebetulan SPT Masa PPN

Berarti no seri yang kita batalkan tetap kita cantumkan di SPT
pembetulan B/Juni dengan jumlah PPN yang dibatalkan atau 0.

on 09/09/2008 09:34 AM Ridwan Candra said the following:
> mas kurnia tanya dulu apakah faktur pjk tsb telah
> dilaporkan oleh klien mas, jika ya klien buat surat ke KPP
> bahwa FP batal utk dilampiri di SPM PPN pembetulan,
> jika belum/tdk lbh gampang tinggal pembetulan
> 1. utk pelaporan pakai kembali no tsb jika tdk, ada kehilangan
> no urut di FPKeluaran menjadi pertanyaan nantinya kenapa?
> 2.LB juni dpt dikompensasikan ke di SPM agustus
> krn di ESPT klik SPT PPN bagian III-IV-V
> ada pilihan dikompensasikan ke masa pajak bulan yg diinginkan
> semoga membantu
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: MDN - KURNIA < mailto:kurnia% 40simdn.co. id kurnia@simdn.
> co.id
>
> To: mailto:forum- pajak%40yahoogro ups.com forum-pajak@
> yahoogroups.
> com
> Sent: Monday, September 8, 2008 11:33:10 AM
> Subject: Re: [forum-pajak] Tatacara Pemebetulan SPT Masa PPN
> Dear Para Millis...... .....
> Sayapun punya persoalan sama dengan Ibu Desy. Di bulan Juni 2008 saya
> ada pembatalan Faktur pajak, sehingga laporan di SPT Masa Juni terjadi
> LB. Yang ingin saya tanyakan :
> 1. Bagaimana pelaporan di SPT Masa Pembetulan di B/Juni, apakah no seri
> FP yang dibatalkan dicantumkan dalam laporan di SPT?. Kalo tidak
> dicantumkan so pasti no FP lompat 1 nomor.
> 2. Apakah LB B/Juni dapat dikompensasikan di SPT B/Agustus.
> Mohon bantuannya.. ......... ...
> Terima kasih.
> Salam/Kurnia
> on 09/05/2008 03:14 PM Ridwan Candra said the following:
>
>> terlebih dahulu buat SPT masa PPN pembetulannya
>> lalu lapor data spt ke kpp (pada spt tool) via
>> flash disk + formulir 1107 / 1108 (induk)
>> jgn lupa lampirkan foto copy SPTM PPN awal seluruhnya
>> berikut foto copy bukti penerimaan surat,
>> bukti penerimaan negara (dr bank), dan SSP
>> semoga membantu
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: milan_ist < mailto:milan_ ist%40yahoo. com milan_ist@yahoo.
>> com
>>
>> To: mailto:forum- pajak%40yahoogro ups.com forum-pajak@
>> yahoogroups.
>> com
>> Sent: Thursday, September 4, 2008 1:48:39 PM
>> Subject: [forum-pajak] Tatacara Pemebetulan SPT Masa PPN
>> saya mw tanya tatacara pembetulan spt masa PPN?
>> pada waktu melaporkan SPT PPN saya salah menuliskan nomor faktur
>> pajaknya..bagaimana cara melaporkan pembetulannya? ?
>> mohon bantuannya dari teman-teman.
>> Thanks,
>> Desy Christina
>>
>>
>>
>
>

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[forum-pajak] ?anggota baru

Berhubung saya masih baru n awam dengan yang namanya masalah pajak,
saya mau menanyakan bagaimana pembetulan SPT masa PPN
Jika pada dua bulan yang lalu ada FP yang belum dilaporkan?
apakah SPT pembetulannya cukup dengan mencantumkan No Faktur Pajak
yang belum dilaporkan atau dengan ikut menyertakan No Faktur Pajak
yang sudah dilaporkan.
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Re: [forum-pajak] Pengkreditan Pajak Masukan

Berdasarkan pasal 16 B UU PPN, untuk penyerahan yang PPNnya mendapat fasilitas DIBEBASKAN dari pengenaan PPN, Pajak Masukannya TIDAK DAPAT DIKREDITKAN.. Tapi bisa menjadi biaya, kalo memang sesuai dengan ketentuan pasal 6 UU PPh.

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From: Eli Hamonangan S <ucoqxmonang@yahoo.com>
Subject: [forum-pajak] Pengkreditan Pajak Masukan
To: forum-pajak@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 9:20 AM


Malam ,

Mohon pendapatnya & mudah2an berdasarkan pengalaman rekan2 dapat membantu saya.
Kami melakukan penjualan /penyerahan BKP strategis dimn atas penyerahan nya Dibebaskan PPN nya dengan membubuhkan cap pada Faktur Pajak Keluaran: PPN DIBEBASKAN sesuai PP no 12 tahun 2001.
Yang menjadi pertanyaan : Apakah seluruh Faktur Pajak Masukan selama tahun 2007 bisa dikreditkan (SPT Masa PPN tahun 2007)?

Terimakasih,

Ucok

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Re: [forum-pajak] Tatacara Pemebetulan SPT Masa PPN

pagi kurnia,

bikin spt pembetulan atas faktur pajak yang dibatalkan masa Juni,
sehingga mengakibatkan ppn jadi lebih bayar.
atas lebih bayar tersebut mau dikompensasikan ke masa apa (bisa agustus, bisa september ... dst sampai 2th).
jika ingin melaporkan spt pembetulan tersebut harus ada lampiran (copy) spt masa juni sebelum dibetulkan.
dan ingat atas pembatalan no seri faktur pajak tersebut tidak bisa dipakai kembali.
demikian smg dpt membantu.

gunawan


----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 11:33 AM
Subject: Re: [forum-pajak] Tatacara Pemebetulan SPT Masa PPN


Dear Para Millis...........
Sayapun punya persoalan sama dengan Ibu Desy. Di bulan Juni 2008 saya
ada pembatalan Faktur pajak, sehingga laporan di SPT Masa Juni terjadi
LB. Yang ingin saya tanyakan :
1. Bagaimana pelaporan di SPT Masa Pembetulan di B/Juni, apakah no seri
FP yang dibatalkan dicantumkan dalam laporan di SPT?. Kalo tidak
dicantumkan so pasti no FP lompat 1 nomor.
2. Apakah LB B/Juni dapat dikompensasikan di SPT B/Agustus.
Mohon bantuannya..............
Terima kasih.

Salam/Kurnia

on 09/05/2008 03:14 PM Ridwan Candra said the following:
> terlebih dahulu buat SPT masa PPN pembetulannya
> lalu lapor data spt ke kpp (pada spt tool) via
> flash disk + formulir 1107 / 1108 (induk)
> jgn lupa lampirkan foto copy SPTM PPN awal seluruhnya
> berikut foto copy bukti penerimaan surat,
> bukti penerimaan negara (dr bank), dan SSP
> semoga membantu
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: milan_ist < mailto:milan_ist%40yahoo.com milan_ist@yahoo.
> com
>
> To: mailto:forum-pajak%40yahoogroups.com forum-pajak@
> yahoogroups.
> com
> Sent: Thursday, September 4, 2008 1:48:39 PM
> Subject: [forum-pajak] Tatacara Pemebetulan SPT Masa PPN
> saya mw tanya tatacara pembetulan spt masa PPN?
> pada waktu melaporkan SPT PPN saya salah menuliskan nomor faktur
> pajaknya..bagaimana cara melaporkan pembetulannya? ?
> mohon bantuannya dari teman-teman.
> Thanks,
> Desy Christina
>
>

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Re: [forum-pajak] PPH 4.2 /23 dan SPT

1. Ya pak, dipotong sesuai PP 51/2008 (SE-05/PJ.03/2008), untuk kontrak yang ditandatangani setelah tanggal 1 januari 2008. Yang harus memotong adalah pemakai jasa jika WP Badan, tapi jika pemakai jasa adalah OP, dapat menjadi pemotong PPh Pasal 4 ayat 2 jika memiliki NPWP dan menyelenggarakan pembukuan atas usahanya. Jika hal tersebut tidak terpenuhi, maka PPh atas jasa konstruksi tsbt disetor sendiri oleh Pelaksana Konstruksi dalam hal ini bos anda.
 
2. Betul Pak, SPT 1770 digunakan oleh OP yang melakukan kegiatan usaha atau pekerjaan bebas.
 
3  & 4 . Betul pak, tapi saya masih agak rancu ini pak, Bosnya menyelenggarakan pembukuan ga pak, untuk jasa konstruksinya, kalau iya, berarti Form 1770-I hal 1 harus disi, dan kemudian akan terdapat koreksi fiskal negatif sehingga penghasilan dari usaha/pekerjaan bebasnya menjadi Rp 0,-
 
5. Yup, betul pak, boleh jadi kredit pajak jika dipotong berdasarkan Per-70/PJ./2006. Itu untuk kualifikasi omset 1 M keatas loh pak.

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From: Jhon Kho <jhonkhoferi@yahoo.com.sg>
Subject: [forum-pajak] PPH 4.2 /23 dan SPT
To: "MODERATOR" <forum-pajak@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 11:51 AM


Dear Temen Temen,
Aku mau minta Saran dan Pendapat
CMIIW
Hari ini bos ku dapat job sampingan sebagai kontraktor untuk membangun masjid
dari wpop perseorangan. wpop tersebut tidak PKP dan bosku pun bukan PKP
atas transaksi tersebut apakah
1.si pemberi kerja harus memotong bosku sebesar 4% x DPP [sesuai SE-05/PJ.03/ 2008]
   atau bosku yang harus memotong dan melaporkan sendiri pada SPT Masa PPH Psl.4.ayat 2
   atas jasa konstruksi.
2.Apakah Bosku harus mengisi SPT 1770 karena sekarang dia mendapat penghasilan
   dari 2 pemberi kerja.
3.Jika melihat form SPT 1770 tahun 2007 bener tidak di form induk hanya diisi diangka 2 saja
   yaitu penghasilan bos yang dari pekerjaan dia sebagai Direktur keuangan.
4.karena atas penghasilan sampingan kontraktor telah dipotong PPH Final maka penghasilan tersebut
   dicatat di Form 1770-III No.10
5.Jika peraturan Per 51-2008 dan SE-05/PJ.03/ 2008 belum dikeluarkan dan Bos ku dikenakan
   PPH 23 sebesar 4.5% apakah ini dapat dijadikan kredit pajak kalo bosku mau mengunakan
   norma ?

atas tanggapannya saya ucapkan terimakasih, mudah mudahan bisa jadi contoh untuk kasus
sejenis

thanks
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Re: [forum-pajak] PPH 4.2 /23 dan SPT

Untuk WP OP yang tidak ditunjuk oleh Dirjen Pajak, tidak boleh melakukan pemotongan PPh PotPut. Pada PP 51 kan ada 4% untuk pelaksanaan konstruksi yang dilakukan oleh penyedia jasa yg tidak memiliki kualifikasi usaha. PPh untuk konstruksi tersebut bersifat final dan distor sendiri. Apa yang anda uraikan sudah benar.

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Subject: [forum-pajak] PPH 4.2 /23 dan SPT
To: "MODERATOR" <forum-pajak@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 10:51 PM


Dear Temen Temen,
Aku mau minta Saran dan Pendapat
CMIIW
Hari ini bos ku dapat job sampingan sebagai kontraktor untuk membangun masjid
dari wpop perseorangan. wpop tersebut tidak PKP dan bosku pun bukan PKP
atas transaksi tersebut apakah
1.si pemberi kerja harus memotong bosku sebesar 4% x DPP [sesuai SE-05/PJ.03/ 2008]
   atau bosku yang harus memotong dan melaporkan sendiri pada SPT Masa PPH Psl.4.ayat 2
   atas jasa konstruksi.
2.Apakah Bosku harus mengisi SPT 1770 karena sekarang dia mendapat penghasilan
   dari 2 pemberi kerja.
3.Jika melihat form SPT 1770 tahun 2007 bener tidak di form induk hanya diisi diangka 2 saja
   yaitu penghasilan bos yang dari pekerjaan dia sebagai Direktur keuangan.
4.karena atas penghasilan sampingan kontraktor telah dipotong PPH Final maka penghasilan tersebut
   dicatat di Form 1770-III No.10
5.Jika peraturan Per 51-2008 dan SE-05/PJ.03/ 2008 belum dikeluarkan dan Bos ku dikenakan
   PPH 23 sebesar 4.5% apakah ini dapat dijadikan kredit pajak kalo bosku mau mengunakan
   norma ?

atas tanggapannya saya ucapkan terimakasih, mudah mudahan bisa jadi contoh untuk kasus
sejenis

thanks
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Re: [forum-pajak] Pengkreditan Pajak Masukan

Pak Ucok
Faktur pajak tersebut tidak dapat dikreditkan,hanya dapat dijadikan biaya

--- On Wed, 9/10/08, Eli Hamonangan S <ucoqxmonang@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Eli Hamonangan S <ucoqxmonang@yahoo.com>
Subject: [forum-pajak] Pengkreditan Pajak Masukan
To: forum-pajak@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 1:20 PM


Malam ,

Mohon pendapatnya & mudah2an berdasarkan pengalaman rekan2 dapat membantu saya.
Kami melakukan penjualan /penyerahan BKP strategis dimn atas penyerahan nya Dibebaskan PPN nya dengan membubuhkan cap pada Faktur Pajak Keluaran: PPN DIBEBASKAN sesuai PP no 12 tahun 2001.
Yang menjadi pertanyaan : Apakah seluruh Faktur Pajak Masukan selama tahun 2007 bisa dikreditkan (SPT Masa PPN tahun 2007)?

Terimakasih,

Ucok

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[forum-pajak] Re: Biaya storage

Mohon infonya;
1. Kenapa biaya penumpukan di pelabuhan ditagihkan atas-nama PPJK yang
mendapat kuasa untuk meng-handling barang impor/expor dari
importir/eksportir.
2. ad.1, menyebabkan pencatatan sebagai biaya PPJK dan atas biaya
tersebut ditagihkan ke Importir/Eksportir yang dicatat sebagai
pendapatan oleh PPJK.
3. Apakah atas biaya penumpukan tersebut baik kalau ditagih oleh PPJK
maupun sebagai Nota Penjualan Jasa Kepelabuhan yang ditagih dari PT.
yang menangani jasa kepelabuhan tersebut sebagai obyek PPh Pasal 23
sesuai PER 70.
Terima kasih.

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RE: [taxchat] Basis question...

In the second to last sentence of my previous post the second code reference should have read “Sec 1250 property.”

 

John Stevens, EA
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From: taxchat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:taxchat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Stevens, Equi-Tax
Sent: 09/10/2008 12:53 PM
To: taxchat@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [taxchat] Basis question...

 

You’re right, Debbie.  The sales prices should be allocated.  Often we see the sale of a rental property where there are multiple depreciation schedules, not only for the original cost of the land and building, but also for improvements, appliances, etc.  Each item except the land will be running on its own schedule, so when the place is sold the owner is actually, for tax purposes, selling a package of things.  The sales price should be allocated based on the FMV of each item.  As a practical matter, we have our tax program (Drake) treat all the items as a group sale, and the program will allocate the sales proceeds in proportion to the various bases.  We used to do all the calculations manually, but the group sale process saves a lot of time.  In most cases I don’t expect the IRS would care much on the sale of a typical residential rental property.  Maybe they would want a more careful analysis if you were selling a building plus extras that included a lot of machinery or other Sec 1245 property that could have different implications that Sec 1245 property.  I assume other tax programs have the capability to do these group sales.

John Stevens, EA
Stevens Tax & Accounting, Inc., dba Equi-Tax
1870 - 50th St. E., Suite 8
Inver Grove Heights, MN 55077
651-773-5000
FAX 651-457-4529
equitax@unique-software.com
www.equitax.net




From: taxchat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:taxchat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Debbie Breedlove
Sent: 09/10/2008 12:20 PM
To: taxchat@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [taxchat] Basis question...

 

Of course they get to use the basis of the land; that is part of their original cost.  Allocate the sale price and expenses of sale between the house and the land, and each has their own basis.  The house has been depreciated, the land has not.  So you'll have two sales, the land on page 1, the house on page 2.

 

 

 

From: Laura Morton

Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 12:24 AM

Subject: [taxchat] Basis question...

 

Ok…might be stupid question, but right now it is about a $10K question!!

On the basis of residential rental property….

Purchased property - Established true cost of property backed out cost of land and then depreciated the balance accordingly.

Selling property- Established selling price, cost to sell, deducted depreciation taken but….don’t I add back in the value of the land at this point?  That is part of the original ‘purchase’ cost, just not depreciated. 

I can handle the outcome with the land added back, but not without….there is literally a 10K swing in the tax amount.

Thanks – and I remember that the stupid question is the one that goes unasked….

Laura M. Morton, EA

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RE: [taxchat] Basis question...

You’re right, Debbie.  The sales prices should be allocated.  Often we see the sale of a rental property where there are multiple depreciation schedules, not only for the original cost of the land and building, but also for improvements, appliances, etc.  Each item except the land will be running on its own schedule, so when the place is sold the owner is actually, for tax purposes, selling a package of things.  The sales price should be allocated based on the FMV of each item.  As a practical matter, we have our tax program (Drake) treat all the items as a group sale, and the program will allocate the sales proceeds in proportion to the various bases.  We used to do all the calculations manually, but the group sale process saves a lot of time.  In most cases I don’t expect the IRS would care much on the sale of a typical residential rental property.  Maybe they would want a more careful analysis if you were selling a building plus extras that included a lot of machinery or other Sec 1245 property that could have different implications that Sec 1245 property.  I assume other tax programs have the capability to do these group sales.

John Stevens, EA
Stevens Tax & Accounting, Inc., dba Equi-Tax
1870 - 50th St. E., Suite 8
Inver Grove Heights, MN 55077
651-773-5000
FAX 651-457-4529
equitax@unique-software.com
www.equitax.net



From: taxchat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:taxchat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Debbie Breedlove
Sent: 09/10/2008 12:20 PM
To: taxchat@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [taxchat] Basis question...

 

Of course they get to use the basis of the land; that is part of their original cost.  Allocate the sale price and expenses of sale between the house and the land, and each has their own basis.  The house has been depreciated, the land has not.  So you'll have two sales, the land on page 1, the house on page 2.

 

 

 

From: Laura Morton

Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 12:24 AM

Subject: [taxchat] Basis question...

 

Ok…might be stupid question, but right now it is about a $10K question!!

On the basis of residential rental property….

Purchased property - Established true cost of property backed out cost of land and then depreciated the balance accordingly.

Selling property- Established selling price, cost to sell, deducted depreciation taken but….don’t I add back in the value of the land at this point?  That is part of the original ‘purchase’ cost, just not depreciated. 

I can handle the outcome with the land added back, but not without….there is literally a 10K swing in the tax amount.

Thanks – and I remember that the stupid question is the one that goes unasked….

Laura M. Morton, EA

10 Key Solutions

Accounting Solutions for the Small Business

770-985-1621

770-985-6618 fax

www.10KeySolutions.com

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Re: [taxchat] Form 433F

My brain doesn't work the same as the IRS' but I looked at the instructions for the 433F, and it mentioned National Standards, so I got lucky!
 
Terri L. Ryman, EA
SOUTHWEST TAX & ACCOUNTING
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 10:41 AM
Subject: Re: [taxchat] Form 433F

Thanks. When it comes to what to search for I sometimes put in every thing but the right word or words that will get me the best answer. This was an excellent choice.

On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 3:59 PM, Terri Ryman <tryman@elkhart.com> wrote:

Key in National Standards in the irs.gov website...they are listed there!
 
Terri L. Ryman, EA
SOUTHWEST TAX & ACCOUNTING
503 Morton, Box 1367
Elkhart, KS  67950-1367
 
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 4:55 PM
Subject: [taxchat] Form 433F

Is there a publication to peruse that will tell me the amounts the IRS allows for the various expenses tracked on the form 433F?

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