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19 September 2008

Re: [taxchat] Delinquency penalty / please help

 Your response is that is their specialty, so let him hire them. They don't do bookkeeping and tax returns, so you can do that.  If he came to you just to deal with the assessment only,  you don't want him.  He should have known when he signed the returns that the income was missing from the returns.  Sounds like he is lying to you.
 
Arnie
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: 09/19/2008 2:25 PM
Subject: RE: [taxchat] Delinquency penalty / please help

Tell him, Yes, they pay cents on the dollar, IF they owed $100,000 for 10 years' back taxes and only make $15,000 a year and have no assets, so the IRS could only expect to collect $25 a month from them until eternity expires.
 
Those things are such a PITA.
 
JoJo
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From: taxchat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:taxchat@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Cris Kelly
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 11:18 AM
To: taxchat@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [taxchat] Delinquency penalty / please help

Ok his response is going to be – What about those ads I see on TV (He already brought this topic up), where people pay cents on the dollar.

Any suggestions on how to handle that

Cris

From: taxchat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:taxchat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Stevens, Equi-Tax
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 11:06 AM
To: taxchat@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [taxchat] Delinquency penalty / please help

Cris,

Your client appears to be fairly high income if he fails to include such large amounts in his returns.  High income people in general are not good candidates for OIC's.

John Stevens, EA
Stevens Tax & Accounting, Inc., dba Equi-Tax
1870 - 50th St. E., Suite 8
Inver Grove Heights, MN 55077
651-773-5000
FAX 651-457-4529
equitax@unique-software.com
www.equitax.net

 

From: taxchat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:taxchat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Cris Kelly
Sent: 09/19/2008 12:08 PM
To: taxchat@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [taxchat] Delinquency penalty / please help

The penalty turns out to be 25% exactly – however, I didn't see that number on the paperwork only the 20%,

The consensus seems to be that I won't be able to get any of the penalties/interested abated, what do you think my chances will be with an OIC?

Thanks for the help,

Cris

From: taxchat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:taxchat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Arnold M. Socol
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 9:31 AM
To: taxchat@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [taxchat] Delinquency penalty / please help

That's not the 20% penalty - its just straight late paying penalty, if that's any help

Arnie

----- Original Message -----

Sent: 09/19/2008 10:31 AM

Subject: RE: [taxchat] Delinquency penalty / please help

I wouldn't be too optimistic about getting the penalty removed.  I went to appeals earlier this year to try to get an accuracy penalty removed for a client because a W-2 was inadvertently omitted.  It wasn't the client's fault.  Appeals said that client had an obligation to review the return for accuracy, so he didn't have reasonable cause for abatement of the penalty.

John Stevens, EA
Stevens Tax & Accounting, Inc., dba Equi-Tax
1870 - 50th St. E., Suite 8
Inver Grove Heights, MN 55077
651-773-5000
FAX 651-457-4529
equitax@unique-software.com
www.equitax.net





From: taxchat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:taxchat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Benita Myers
Sent: 09/18/2008 8:37 PM
To: taxchat@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [taxchat] Delinquency penalty / please help

Cris, sounds like they have smacked him with the substantial understatement penalty and that penalty is 20%...Stiff penalty, he needs reasonable cause to get out of it...It does not sound like he has one...

2008/9/18 Cris Kelly <ckelship@yahoo.com>

Hi

I have a client that under-reported income in both 04 & 05.  The 04 amount not reported was large over $135,000 and the amount for 05 was under $20,000.

The situation is that he had a bookkeeper (not an EA or CPA) doing his books and preparing his tax returns.  He never checked up on things and he signed whatever the bookkeeper told him to.

The amounts were put into the company, they were posted as owner investment instead of income. 

The amount of penalty is almost $20,000 and they are charging him interest over $17,000.

Does anyone think that I have any hope in getting the numbers reduced?  While the errors were technically his fault and all he can say is that he was stupid, but he is trying to fix things. 

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

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Thanks,

Cris

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