Chuck,
I think the word “informally”, in the previous sentence, is the one that counts, meaning, I’m assuming, a partnership or other entity that doesn’t register with the Sec. of State. Strictly speaking, partnership agreements don’t even have to be in writing. We’ll look forward to hearing what you find out at the seminar.
John Stevens, EA
Stevens Tax & Accounting, Inc., dba Equi-Tax
651-773-5000
FAX 651-457-4529
equitax@unique-software.com
www.equitax.net
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Sent: 10/28/2008 3:20 PM
To:
Subject: RE: [taxchat] Husband-Wife LLC & OIH
Thanks, John, but I don’t understand this part of the GearUp quote:
"Therefore, a business owned and operated by the spouses through a Limited
Liability Company, general partnership, or limited partnership does not
qualify for the election.”
What other kinds of joint ventures are there? It seems to me to be saying
that NO h/w partnership of any kind can make the election. But that would
seem to directly contradict the Code language.
I’m heading to a GearUp seminar tonight. I’ll ask tomorrow.
Thanks,
Chuck
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From: taxchat@yahoogroups
John Stevens, Equi-Tax
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 3:09 PM
To: taxchat@yahoogroups
Subject: RE: [taxchat] Husband-Wife LLC & OIH
Chuck,
Here’s from the latest Gear Up manual on entities. It’s not authority but
indicates where the IRS is heading re whether an H/W LLC can file 2 Schedule
C’s:
“NEW DEVELOPMENT: While the IRS has yet to issue formal guidance on this
change, information on its website reveals that the IRS’ position is that
the escape from partnership treatment for spousal business is limited in
scope. It does not apply to spouses who operate in the name of a state law
entity. The election can be made only for a business operated by spouses as
co-owners that is, or should otherwise be, taxed informally (my emphasis) as
a partnership. Therefore, a business owned and operated by the spouses
through a Limited Liability Company, general partnership, or limited
partnership does not qualify for the election.”
Based on that it appears that IRS is taking the position that H/W LLC’s can
elect 2 Schedule C’s. Maybe we won’t know for sure until after IRS issues
formal guidance and someone challenges it.
John Stevens, EA
Stevens Tax & Accounting, Inc., dba Equi-Tax
651-773-5000
FAX 651-457-4529
equitax@unique-
www.equitax.
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From: taxchat@yahoogroups
Chuck Warman
Sent: 10/28/2008 2:28 PM
To: taxchat@yahoogroups
Subject: RE: [taxchat] Husband-Wife LLC & OIH
I still can’t find where it says that in Sec 761, where qualified joint
ventures are defined.
Chuck
From: taxchat@yahoogroups
Donna J. Perrone
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 2:14 PM
To: taxchat@yahoogroups
Subject: RE: [taxchat] Husband-Wife LLC & OIH
Lynne,
Federal law says you can't do it.....
Donna J. Perrone, EA
203-469-4939
203-468-2038 fax
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From: taxchat@yahoogroups
Lynne Ayton
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 2:53 PM
To: taxchat@yahoogroups
Subject: Re: [taxchat] Husband-Wife LLC & OIH
drake allows you to put J on a sched c, & the 8829 automatically goes to the
sched c also, but will create 1 SE's for each spouse. WI doesnt say it
"wont" allow h/w llc's, so my guess is, you can file a joint sched C if
state law allows it.
lynne
Mel Wolfson wrote:
I believe that an LLC can not elect to be treated as two Schedule Cs.
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