__._,_.___----- Original Message -----From: JoJo ZawawiSent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 8:01 PMSubject: RE: [taxchat] Bad Client QuestionNot to mention that he also stiffed me on a substantial portion of my bill when I did his tax return (the last service I ever did for him) -- several hundred $.What a jack*** !We'll see what the PrePaid Legal guy has to say. I'm hoping the same thing as you mentioned....Cheers,JoJo
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From: taxchat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:taxchat@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Kate M Coyne
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 5:00 PM
To: taxchat@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [taxchat] Bad Client QuestionPretty unbelievable!! Maybe he won't want anything to do with you in court if he knows you are not going to be favorable to him.Kate----- Original Message -----From: JoJo ZawawiSent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 7:47 PMSubject: RE: [taxchat] Bad Client QuestionWell check this out. I responded to this guy's e-mail, telling him I wasn't taking on new clients etc. So he called me on the phone yesterday, telling me that what he wanted was for me to write up some sort of affidavit/declaration on his behalf -- he had fired his partner, and his partner is suing him. He wanted me to testify that the books were messed up when I took them over (they were) and that it was his partner's fault. Now, I cannot testify that it was his partner's fault, because I never observed his partner (or anybody else) doing the books. I only have my ex-client's word that it was his partner's fault. So I told him this, and declined.What happens today ? Somebody showed up at my door with a subpoena ! (I wasn't home.) The process server then left me a voicemail telling me that he has a subpoena, and to please call him.I would just love to get up on that stand and tell them how my ex-client was the unethical one, paying the wrong person in order to unlawfully avoid income taxes, and so on....Actually, I don't want to have anything to do with them. I've just called an attorney (I finally get to use PrePaid Legal !) to get his advice first.Can you believe this **** ?Cheers,JoJo
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From: taxchat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:taxchat@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of JoJo Zawawi
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 2:46 PM
To: taxchat@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [taxchat] Bad Client QuestionThat sounds perfect. I wanted the least troublesome route. I'm not interested in having further friction or whatever.As a note to Arnie, I DO agree that people can (and do) change for the better. I just don't think that this guy did, and so I feel he is dangerous at best.Cheers,JoJo
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From: taxchat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:taxchat@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Jenkins LawFirm
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 12:00 PM
To: taxchat@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [taxchat] Bad Client QuestionThen just respond briefly, a polite 'thanks but no thanks', I would only say, I'm not able to take on any work from you due to my current workload.KC JenkinsOn Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 12:29 PM, JoJo Zawawi <kuchekesha@earthlink.net> wrote:
I definitely won't have him back again -- I'm not talking about just not reporting some income or something. A couple of examples:1. He ruined something in a truck (something to do with the engine, and which would cost a LOT to fix) and figured out a way to mickey-mouse it so it would look and act perfect temporarily, and then traded it in for a new car, never mentioning the problem.2. He was employing one of his relatives, but the paycheck was going to another one of his relatives who does not work for him (who had much lower income), to aviod relative # 1 having any tax liability.There was more. I really do not trust this guy. He is shady, shifty and shiftless. Or something like that. I consider him dangerous, especially these days with extra IRS scrutiny and fines and so on !I think I'll go with the "My practice has changed and I'm not taking on clients right now" approach.Thanks, all !JoJo
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From: taxchat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:taxchat@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Chuck Warman
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 9:56 AMI agree with Kate...."illegal" is the operative word here. In fact, I'd go a little farther, telling him that you're glad that you can be on friendly terms now, but that it would probably not be in the best interest of either of you to take on his work again.
Suppose you hire a babysitter, and her boyfriend comes over and smacks your kid around. You can forgive her, and ultimately you can even have a friendly relationship. But are you going to let her babysit your kid again?
Chuck Warman, CPA
Wichita Falls, TX
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From: taxchat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:taxchat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kate M Coyne
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 9:45 AM
To: taxchat@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [taxchat] Bad Client Question
Arnie,
I would normally be with you on this except JoJo's comment "I started to find out that he was doing this and that illegal stuff". Get away from this guy. Remember what your Mother said? If you hang around with the wrong crowd people will think you are doing the same things they do. I would not put my reputation on the line, it's worth more than the income.
Kate
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From: Arnold M. Socol
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 9:56 AM
Subject: Re: [taxchat] Bad Client Question
I know that most of you will disagree, but hear is my response
I personally would be more open about it. Maybe the X-Rude client has seen the light and now respects the quality of work you have provided. I would give these people the opportunity under "my" rules and see what happens. Quote him a retainer fee in advance for the service politely, including the unpaid balance. If questioned about the advance, the answer is that is my policy whenever there has been any problem in the past. If he accepts, you have only gained. If he declines, then no loss. Your loss is not being more open to the opportunity of new business, especially during what may be an extended down turn in the economy. Just check today's stock market - its "limit down" circuit breakers have been triggered. As a financial advisor I have thoughts on that topic as well.
Arnie
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From: Kate M Coyne
Sent: 10/24/2008 9:38 AM
Subject: Re: [taxchat] Bad Client Question
I would respond (my husband wouldn't even respond) and tell him something to the effect that I am not accepting any additional clients and I am unable to take on any additional work.
Good luck,
Kate
----- Original Message -----
From: JoJo Zawawi
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 11:10 PM
Subject: [taxchat] Bad Client Question
About 1-1/2 years ago, I had a bookkeeping / tax client that was a total pain in the behind, and as we got to know each other better, I started to find out that he was doing this and that illegal stuff, and I wanted no part of it. It worked out at that time that I did not have to fire him, because he fired me after I prepared his tax return and charged him tax prep rates, not bookkeeping rates. He stiffed me about $ 200 on the bill (paid bookkeeping rates for the time spent) and was very, very rude, and even threatened me that "his new bookkeeper will probably find lots of mistakes and he will bill me for it all", etc. Needless to say, I never heard back from him.
Today he sent me an e-mail, apologizing and asking me for advice regarding his business partner. (What advice, I don't know. And hello, I'm not a lawyer !)
Of course, I want no part of him.
The question: Do I respond politely, telling him I am busy ? Or do I not even respond ?
Cheers,
JoJo
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